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    sny, FishOutofWater

    do you keep doing this?  I've never seen stevej say that he is an immigration attorney.  If you have proof of that, then go and find it and post it here with a link.  I've seen you do this so many times.  You have a solid argument in some of the diaries that you write, but you competely undermine yourself when you keep accusing people who troll your diaries of being immigration attorneys.

    Go and find that proof or STOP accusing stevej of being an immigration attorney.  I support you in the issue that you are writing about, but if I keep seeing this bullshit accusation, I really feel that I have to stop supporting your diaries altogether.

    He's been trolling you, no doubt.  He's in every one of your diaries using ad hom accusations of xenophobia and racism and not addressing the data and facts that you bring forth.  But you are handling it really poorly by calling him an immigration lawyer, using that as another form of ad hom, essentially telling your readers to ignore anything he says because you believe he has an agenda.  Address his arguments, or lack of arguments (which is usually the case).  Force him to argue the facts instead of trying to take you down with ad hom.  And I say this as a person who has a lot of respect and admiration for stevej on probably every other issue.  But I loathe what he's been doing with this one.


    "Justice is a commodity"

    by joanneleon on Fri Apr 05, 2013 at 06:59:57 AM PDT

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    •  I will follow your advice. (0+ / 0-)

      You seem to be fair.

    •  Agreed (4+ / 0-)

      It doesn't matter whether stevej is an 'evil immigration attorney' or not, just as it doesn't matter whether IT Professional is a 'racist xenophobic immigrant hater' or not.

      What matters are the facts, everything else is just non-sequitur bullshit.

      By the way, I have an electrical engineering degree, which I would consider a science degree, and what's more I understand what the word xenophobia means.

      fear and hatred of strangers or foreigners or of anything that is strange or foreign
      The crux of the 'immigration debate' today isn't about fear, and it isn't about hatred, and it really isn't about people specifically -- it's about economics.

      I won't be coming home tonight, my generation will put it right - Genesis 9:3

      by superscalar on Fri Apr 05, 2013 at 07:41:57 AM PDT

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      •  Well part of it is about economics (0+ / 0-)

        When the discussion focuses specifically on H1B, it usually is more about economics, and less about xenophobia.

        But identity politics has a whole lot to do with the immigration debate.  When you hear people say that lawbreakers should suffer, and that people who want to immigrate should do so legally - without any real understanding of the barriers in place - well, yes, sometimes xenophobia is hiding there.  

        “If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin.” Charles Darwin

        by ivorybill on Fri Apr 05, 2013 at 10:41:41 AM PDT

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