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  •  The diarist is a foreign born immigrant. (5+ / 0-)

    The diarist sees what importing guest workers into any profession does to that profession.

    Employment based immigration where the employers are allowed to bypass the local workforce is a death spiral and leads to the situation we have where the DOW goes up and unemployment stays high.

    The diarist has a good job and is nearing retirement and gains nothing by these diaries.  The diarist cares about others who are wondering why they have not gotton the call back for those jobs they applied for where they met every single requirement.

    •  I am a foreign born immigrant myself (0+ / 0-)

      Who doesn't begrudge other foreign born immigrants having a chance at the American dream.

      Many people who come here on an H1B visa, apply for green card, stay in the US and become productive members of our society.

      I am sure there are many cases where H1Bs were hired for the cost effectiveness, but there are many many other cases where they were hired because of shortages in some fields, and/or because they were much more qualified than the "local workforce".

      Perhaps some of those others who have no gotten a call back, for the jobs they applied for, is because they did not actually meet every single requirement or there were others better qualified. It's not all black and white. But you are portraying it as black and white, those damn foreigners are stealing our American jobs.

      •  Would you object to a requirement (4+ / 0-)

        of the H-1B visa requiring the employer to prove, (not state), that there is no U.S. worker willing to do the job before being allowed to import a guest worker?

        Would you be willing to disallow companies being able to use their U.S. workers to train their foreign guest worker?

        The mere fact that a US worker is traing a guest worker proves that the US worker is the one is already trained and the guest worker is the one not yet qualified.

        •  I would object (0+ / 0-)

          Because a US worker needs to be more than just willing, they are also need to be at least just as qualified for the position. All things considered equal I would absolutely try to give preference to US workers, but to codify it into law would potentially require employers to hire those less qualified.

          As for training, it is entirely possible for a superbly qualified candidate to need some more specific job training, so lack of training is not the same as not being qualified.

          •  So then would you accept the law as follows.. (0+ / 0-)

            your words:

            "US worker needs to be more than just willing, they are also need to be at least just as qualified for the position"

            In this exact situation would you support any law that would restrict the employer from chosing the handcuffed employee over the U.S. worker when they are identically and exactly equally qualified?

            How would this exact situation described "potentially require employers to hire those less qualified"?  We have determined that they are identically qualified in every way.

            •  the problem is (0+ / 0-)

              that it is difficult to ascertain if the candidates are exactly qualified. And there is no way for anyone to truly enforce that law. All someone would have to do is say that based on their evaluation the person hired was more qualified.

              Who has determined that the 2 applicants are identically qualified?

              Anyways, my wife (who is an H1B as I've previously stated) works at a State University that by their own guidelines gives preference to Americans in the hiring process. They still hire a ton of H1Bs because there are not enough decently qualified Americans applying. All the H1Bs earn exactly the same as Americans and are treated well. What's the problem with that?

              Now that is a State institution, but I would not make that determination for a private business. I would not want my decisions of who to hire to be second guessed and subject to frivolous lawsuits. So yes, I would oppose any kind of restrictions.

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