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  •  Since When? (4+ / 0-)

    Additionally, in my personal experience, there are too many unqualified IT college graduates

    Is There an "Alarming" Shortage of IT Workers?

    The post above is from 1999. The argument over guest worker visa programs, and the H-B program in particular, has been going on for more than a decade now.

    Given that you and others are so vehement that there is a 'skilled worker shortage' (to conveniently go along with the 'unskilled worker shortage'), and given that the hue and cry has been going on for almost twenty years now, you can no doubt point to one piece of legislation from Washington DC which would incentivize a STEM education. Certainly there is at least one program out there to forgive student loan debt for engineering graduates, 'cause they do it for teachers and firefighters and without an engineer to design that class room or that fire house you just have a bunch of people standing around -- point me to one piece of legislation designed to eliminate this supposed 'skills gap' that been around for so very long now.

    And finally, one more time, read the 'Highlights' of the Fiscal 2011 Characteristics of Specialty Occupation Workers, and go back and look at prior year reports, and tell me this isn't a scam.

    I won't be coming home tonight, my generation will put it right - Genesis 9:3

    by superscalar on Fri Apr 05, 2013 at 07:59:22 AM PDT

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    •  Go another decade earlier at least (1+ / 0-)
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      Physics Ph.Ds have been surprised at how hard it is to find work since 1990 easily, and although that's coincident with the end of the cold war, I don't think it was new then.

      Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

      by elfling on Fri Apr 05, 2013 at 09:55:39 AM PDT

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    •  Agreed and take it one step further (0+ / 0-)

      The entire education system has been getting more and more rigged to hard skills rather than soft skills. Yet companies have been shifting more and more to a blurring of lines between IT and the rest of the company.

      The result? More and more need for workers with more than just technical skills and fewer and fewer workers who have more than just technical skills. It's not a "skills gap" in a traditional sense, it's a lack of focus on turning out people capable of being complete workers. Far from legislation to address it, we're actively going the opposite direction.

      As an IT professional, I have been keenly aware of how difficult it is to find people who will really be able to do an excellent job in a modern environment. Offering a very good salary at a major company in a major metropolitan area, the pickings are still slim finding someone who can hit the ground running. Companies do not take the time and money to focus on training and creating a well-running team,which would alleviate some of this.  

      But H1B visa holders absolutely do not solve the problem at all - all they do is provide a cheaper source of equally or lesser qualified labor. The real answer is to recognize that having a good workforce is a cooperative endeavor, not something that can be measured by the number of people who can pass a standardized test.

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      by eparrot on Fri Apr 05, 2013 at 03:25:36 PM PDT

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