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  •  The bill would deny parents a personal ... (22+ / 0-)

    ... exemption for their child on their North Carolina income tax return if the child is registered to vote where they are living while in college, despite the fact that they are providing more than half of the child's support and qualify for the exemption under federal law.  Thus for the parents to keep the exemption on their state return, the child must be registered to vote where the parents home is located.

    This means the child would have to request an absentee ballot, or travel back to the parents' home to vote.  The effect of this is that get-out-the-vote efforts, efforts to get college students to show up and vote, will be impaired.

    Combined with the legislature's intention to significantly cut back on early voting for everyone, this bill is designed to reduce turnout among college students.

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    by davehouck on Fri Apr 05, 2013 at 06:33:54 AM PDT

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    •  and I am sure it means that students (5+ / 0-)

      at the flagship school -- UNC -- and Duke -- and the liberal arts college in Greensboro -- but whose parents live out of state would have an issue getting registered because they would be asked if their parents list them as dependents (how long before the NC colleges are required to list those who rely on their parents for financial assistance or who are still dependents?) and told (whether it is true or not) that they can't vote in NC.

    •  That's just one of the effects. (14+ / 0-)
      The effect of this is that get-out-the-vote efforts, efforts to get college students to show up and vote, will be impaired.
      The other effect would be to dilute college students' votes, so that their mostly-Democratic votes aren't concentrated in one college town where they could conceivably elect a Democrat, but rather scattered throughout numerous gerrymandered-Republican districts.

      "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

      by JamesGG on Fri Apr 05, 2013 at 06:47:27 AM PDT

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    •  This would keep DFH votes out of NC (2+ / 0-)

      YES WE DID -- AGAIN. FOUR MORE YEARS.

      by raincrow on Fri Apr 05, 2013 at 06:54:59 AM PDT

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    •  Tax hike! (6+ / 0-)

      The way the action is being reported down here is that the state government wants to raise taxes on parents whose kids attend college.

      Hit these idiotic legislators where it hurts.

      I wonder how many conservative North Carolinians (many of whom remain democrats--at least in name) are happy with this government they've elected.

      Just because the government keeps a record of real property transfers, it doesn't mean that the government wants to confiscate your home.

      by NCJan on Fri Apr 05, 2013 at 07:16:05 AM PDT

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      •  Yes, it is indeed a tax increase (2+ / 0-)
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        And to your point about "this government they've elected".  I would imagine that a lot of voters thought that McCrory was a moderate; and it seems that with all of this bad legislation being considered in Raleigh, at least some of those voters most be having second thoughts.

        Interestingly, I just received a blast email from ncsenate.org fundraising for Democrats off this bill and the legislation restricting early voting.  Hopefully that suggests that the state Democratic party has learned some lessons from 2010 and 2012.

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        by davehouck on Fri Apr 05, 2013 at 09:19:53 AM PDT

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      •  And to perhaps to make it even clearer ... (2+ / 0-)
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        ... it's a tax hike on parents struggling to send their kids to college.

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        by davehouck on Fri Apr 05, 2013 at 09:22:41 AM PDT

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    •  Just like the rest (1+ / 0-)
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      of their bone-headed, knee-jerk legislation, this one doesn't even meet their goal.

      NC cannot bar anyone from getting a deduction on another state's income tax. Period.

      The deduction they're targeting, according to the NC GOP, is on the federal tax form, which they can not affect.  Since they can't take that federalmoney from families, they instead say they will disallow that new, lower "adjusted income" on state tax forms.

      Question - How can NC force the state of, say California, to disqualify a legal federal tax deduction, and a legally claimed reflection of that in their state income taxes?  Just because their child has paid to go to a college in NC?

      Answer - they can't.

      So, once again, a piece of unenforceable, un-Constitutional legislative "candy", meant to appeal to the children on the far-right, and ends up punishing people other than those they were targeting. Rather than the out of state students from those "liberal" bastions, like South Carolina and Mississippi, it punishes in-state students like my daughter, who lives in Asheville, where she goes to school, rather than Raleigh.

      Kudos, GOP!  Next we'll just need a fitting name, to more accurately portray what this bill is truly designed to do -

      "The Virginia Foxx Protection Act".

      (Actually, if we just sell it as an Environmental/Animal Protection Act, and they'll vote against their own bill.  They have become that reactionary!)

      Or maybe, more plainly, the "Don't Send Your College Students to NC Act", adding yet another group to Gov. McCrory's new "Please Don't Come to NC! agenda.

      "One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato

      by Bcre8ve on Fri Apr 05, 2013 at 11:59:17 AM PDT

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