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    And FDR's "grand bargain" was arguably necessary back then in the era of Jim Crow and Dixiecrats, which is not true today.
    so... obstruction by dixiecrats must be bargained with

    but not obstruction by tea partiers?

    you MUST explain to me how that works.

    This comment is dedicated to my mellow Adept2U and his Uncle Marcus

    by mallyroyal on Fri Apr 05, 2013 at 11:38:25 AM PDT

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    •  the electorate FDR faced was less diverse (0+ / 0-)

      much whiter, more Protestant, more conservative. He therefore had to be much more wary, because the right was far more powerful back then.

      He could not have won any of his elections without those Southern Democrats supporting him.

      Obama's in the 21st century. The electorate he is facing is much more diverse--not only ethnically, but in religion, gender, and age. The fastest growing demographics in American politics are Hispanic- and Asian-Americans.

      The Southern Strategy of Nixon and Reagan is no longer viable. The Republicans have only won the popular vote in one of the last six presidential elections. Obama is facing an electorate that is much more open to making significant changes. He doesn't need the support of white conservatives to advance his legislative agenda or even to get elected.

      The tea party has no power that Obama doesn't give it. They're a ghost, they represent a shrinking minority. The American electorate overwhelmingly repudiates what they stand for. If Obama stamped his foot, the ghost would vanish and we'd see how powerless they really are.

      The 1% give them funding and free media airtime to make them look more powerful, but it's like a pufferfish taking in water to make it seem bigger and more threatening than it is.

      Obama chooses not to banish the ghost, because the ghost gives him political cover to do what he wants to do--namely, advance the Wall Street agenda of privatizing the government. He can kill the public option and blame it on the teabaggers. He can slash the stimulus and pack it with tax cuts, and blame it on the Republicans. Lather, rinse, repeat.

      Obama is a skillful politician, all right--but you're mistaken about whom he's working for. He's not working for the poor--quite the opposite.

      That is, in a nutshell, how it works.

      "In America, the law is king." --Thomas Paine

      by limpidglass on Fri Apr 05, 2013 at 12:03:36 PM PDT

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    •  Maybe we have learned? (0+ / 0-)

      NOT to bargain with them?

      Especially when there is no reason too?

      Why is it necessary about cuts to entitlements?

    •  An overwhelming majority of Americans (0+ / 0-)

      across the political and ideological spectrum opposed cuts to any of these programs, something that was not true of making Social Security color-blind in the 30's. The forces of segregation were profoundly more powerful and numerous back then than are the forces calling for austerity.

      And your argument also only makes sense to someone who thinks that a grand bargain--ANY grand bargain--is necessary or wise, as opposed to kicking the can down the road with a series of CRs or status quo budgets until we have the votes to pass something progressive. You support a grand bargain? Why? Why do we have to "go big" when we're at a disadvantage? Unlike the 30's, we're not trying to pass something progressive, which is impossible now, but rather avoid anything regressive passing. All Obama has to do is do nothing to make that happen, or, at most, veto anything regressive.

      You really think the public's going to side with Repubs if he does that?

      There is no political advantage to giving away the New Deal. None. And every disadvantage in doing so. He's not doing this for political gain. He's doing this because he WANTS a grand bargain, and thus these cuts.

      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

      by kovie on Fri Apr 05, 2013 at 02:19:53 PM PDT

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