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  •  Reading through these sad stories, (3+ / 0-)

    that could just as easily be the 4 year old in the next apartment or the next house over who picks up the gun, pulls the trigger and murders you or your wife.  The chances are astronomically against that happening, but once the laws of fate determine it's going to happen, it isn't that far a stretch to have it happen to you as to that neighbor's wife.

    •  The chances are higher than people think (7+ / 0-)

      NLM data (see my comment upthread)

      1/3 of homes have children and 40% of them don't keep their guns locked up. More than half of unintentional shootings are committed by children and teens.

      That means consider all your neighbors, relatives, or colleagues, and any other families you know with kids. If they are gun owners there is a significant exposure to the possibility of getting shot by their kid or one of their kid's friends who is visiting on any given day.

      365 days a year.

      "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

      by LilithGardener on Fri Apr 12, 2013 at 02:30:06 PM PDT

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      •  40% of homes with kids don't keep their guns (2+ / 0-)
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        locked up, (which would make about 1 in 8 homes having unsecured guns and kids) or 40% of gunowners don't keep their guns locked up?

        I haven't seen it, but I wonder what percentage of homes have guns present.  I know I've seen estimates of over 300 million guns in the US, which would make it about 2 guns per household as an average, but that's just the average.  The median would be something far less, as there are homes with ten guns that would make up for a number of homes not having guns.  

        •  The NLM gun safety suggestion says nothing (3+ / 0-)
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          about unsecured gun in homes where children do not live, but may still visit.

          Anyone who sleeps with a loaded gun next to the bed, probably leaves that gun unsecured many times every day, unless the first thing they do upon waking is lock it up in a safe.

          Possibly exposing their children multiple times a day, e.g. when they take a shower, when they sit down to eat breakfast, but one child hasn't come downstairs yet, after school when one parent is not yet home. And whenever other kids come to visit, it's easy for a child to slip away and invite their friend to see Dad's gun.

          None of these unintentional shootings are accidents, IMHO.

          "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

          by LilithGardener on Fri Apr 12, 2013 at 02:52:46 PM PDT

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        •  Not all kids are irresponsible (1+ / 0-)
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          When I was a boy my father kept a .22 rifle and ammunition, and I knew where both were. He explained to me how dangerous guns are.

          I would sneak off and look at the rifle sometimes, but I never loaded it. My guess is that many children today would be similarly responsible. If you're old enough to be able to load a gun, you should be smart enough to do what your parents tell you, when it comes to highly dangerous objects.

          What I'm suggesting is that not keeping guns locked up when there are children around is not necessarily wrong. But keeping loaded guns around, without their being in your direct physical possession, is most definitely wrong, under any circumstances.

          This is not a bloodless process. - Barack Obama, at the launch of the Hamilton Project....

          by Alexandre on Fri Apr 12, 2013 at 03:49:17 PM PDT

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