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  •  A very cogent question was asked this week (6+ / 0-)

    by Juan Cole on his blog Informed Comment regarding the U.S. saber-ratting toward Iran compared with North Korea's saber-ratting toward the U.S.  The article begins:

    All the talk in Washington is about war on Iran, which poses no threat to the United States. But one never hears belligerence toward North Korea, which routinely menaces the US (most recently threatening to nuke the US territory of Guam). In contrast, Iran’s Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei has said his country cannot have nuclear weapons because they are incompatible with Islamic law (which forbids killing innocent noncombatants).
    He also includes a little chart noting the differences between the capabilities of the two countres, e.g.,

    Nuclear warheads:  North Korea, 8; Iran, 0
    Times has threatened to nuke US: North Korea, 1; Iran, 0
    Air Force Personnel: North Korea, 85,000; Iran, 30,000
    Tanks: North Korea, 3,500; Iran, 1,613
    Active Troops:  North Korea, 1,106,000; Iran, 585,000
    Artillery Field Pieces:  North Korea, 8500; Iran, 3000

    The least the warmongers in congress could do, it seems to me, is pay more attention to the serious threats coming from the madman in North Korea who actually has the capability of launching war using nuclear weapons than wringing their hands over perceived threats from Iran which has repeatedly stated that they are not building nuclear weapons and don't have any intention of doing so.

    "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

    by SueDe on Sat Apr 06, 2013 at 05:46:43 AM PDT

    •  While I agree with you somewhat, to me (1+ / 0-)
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      Iran is a different kind of threat not because of these things but because what happens afterward should there be military engagement.

      (BTW, the idea that they can't build nukes because "islam forbids" killing innocent non-comabtant - or whatever -  is ridiculous on its face. islam, like every other religion, will always conveniently find a way to discover that "god" happens to agree with them and that their holy book allows (or even commands) whatever the fuck it is that they've decided they need/want to do).

      NK can be easily dispensed. I think this is partially why we don't spend a bunch of time on it. China is not getting into a war over this so I think the thought is: if NK is stupid enough to do anything serious, well, that would be really stupid. The country has no resources. Iran OTOH has oil. As does the rest of the middle east. I'm not sure we can count on whoever are out "allies" over there should it come down to Iran vs US. Sure, most countries say they're not crazy about Ahmadenijad (sp) but who knows what happens if the actual rubber meets the actual road? Because let's face it: we wouldn't engage militarily there unless Iran tries something with Israel. So I don't think we can count on anything. Our country is woefully addicted to oil and well, and look what happened with speculation and gas prices when there was all that unrest before. Pure bullshit but it is what it is. For that reason, the threat is just bigger because of it.

      •  I wouldn't give the North Koreans (2+ / 0-)
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        too much credit. They're extremely isolated, and it only takes one stupid move to escalate things.
        I'm not saying they're going to launch a nuke, but remember when they bombed that S. Korean island and killed all those soldiers?
        In today's tense environment, that wouldn't be treated the same as it was.

        “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

        by skohayes on Sat Apr 06, 2013 at 07:51:04 AM PDT

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