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  •  We also differ in our intensity of feelings on the (4+ / 0-)
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    To some of us Social Security and Medicare are truly the 3rd rail.  They are iconic programs of the Democratic Party.

    This is an extremely heartfelt issue for us.  It goes far beyond Obama and his term in office.  The cuts will far outlive his term.  The impact of a Democratic President throwing these programs on the table for a short budget deal will set the most horrific precedent.

    What I think of Obama is really trivial.  I think he's wrong, weak, I could go on, but that isn't the point.  The point is that he is undermining the foundational programs and policy of the Democratic Party and essentially replacing the New Deal with the New Austerity.

    The New Deal was the real Hope the real Change.  The New Deal promised a middle class.  The New Austerity promises that you will have less and your children will have less and you will have less because you do not deserve more.

    •  See, I would disagree with your assessment of (0+ / 0-)

      Obama. I think he understands the gist of your last paragraph.
      However, the gist of my original post is that we should link arms and fight austerity rather than quarrel about Obama.
      I personally am in dire situation regarding retirement and health issues. I'm off the chart.

      Look, if we want to reign in the MIC and cut defense spending, etc., the only effective tool we have for that is government frugality.

      Ditto general Wall Street welfare.

      Whether we like it or not it will be a matter of political jiu jitsu which one gets the permanent cut. I think Obama's trying to hold on until we get the House back.
      That's just my belief.

      Jiu jitsu depends on gravity and leverage, so I think we should put all of our weight and leverage into play to protect what we think is important. I think we should take a break on arguing about Obama.
      That's all.

      You can't make this stuff up.

      by David54 on Sat Apr 06, 2013 at 02:14:01 PM PDT

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      •  He's President and has the bully pulpit (4+ / 0-)

        so it is difficult to leave him out of it even when you try.

        I do believe the real problem is the party.  I am extremely unhappy with the Democratic Party on the Social Security and Medicare issues.  Most of them are running for cover and hiding under the bed and you can't get a straight answer on any simple question concerning where they stand on these cuts.  

        Like I just got an e-mail from Franken on some other proposal for Medicare which is all fine but it does not address the question of this budget proposal.   It is just a distraction.  I am sure it is meant to be a distraction.  Send out an e-mail on something other than the budget cuts because he isn't ready to take a stand on the budget cuts.  

        I am just fed up with it.  I don't want be tricked, conned, lied to, mislead, and treated like I'm an idiot.  

        I want clear answer to simple questions.  Like will you vote against cuts to Social Security or Medicare benefits?  Why can't you get an answer to that question?

        When you can't get that, you get  mad.   And I am mad.

        •  I've been deleting all my emails. I know what you (0+ / 0-)

          mean. And I really respect Franken for the good he's done. But...
          I'm not trying to tell people who are mad to not be mad.

          You can't make this stuff up.

          by David54 on Sat Apr 06, 2013 at 08:03:54 PM PDT

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