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  •  The arm of the state in question was the FAA, (5+ / 0-)

    And no, they normally retain control.

    "We refuse to fight in a war started by men who refused to fight in a war." -freewayblogger

    by Bisbonian on Sat Apr 06, 2013 at 05:35:27 PM PDT

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    •  The FAA owns this TFR, but they apparently chose (1+ / 0-)
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      to limit traffic under 1000 ft. to those coordinated by Exxon relief operations, with Tom Surhoff as Exxon's flight coordinator, as we know:

      FDC 3/9344 ZME AR.. FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS MAYFLOWER, AR. EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. PURSUANT TO 14 CFR SECTION 91.137(A)(2) TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS ARE IN EFFECT FOR OIL PIPELINE RUPTURE ONLY RELIEF AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS UNDER DIRECTION OF TOM SUHRHOFF ARE AUTHORIZED IN THE AIRSPACE AT AND BELOW 1000 FEET AGL WITHIN A 5 NAUTICAL MILE RADIUS OF 345855N/0922642W OR THE LITTLE ROCK LIT VORTAC 319 DEGREE RADIAL AT 22.4 NAUTICAL MILES TOM SUHRHOFF TELEPHONE 713-299-2572 ISIN CHARGE OF ON SCENE EMERGENCY RESPONSE ACTIVITY. MEMPHIS ZME ARTCC, TELEPHONE 901-368-8234 IS, THE FAA COORDINATION FACILITY.
      Numbers are given for both Exxon's flight coordinator and the FAA, as we see.

      I don't know if Surhoff has been designated as the local "official" in FAA's regulations on the matter, which I would typically think was a government or similar employee:

      http://avsport.org/...

      . . .

      APPENDIX 1
      SECTION 91.137 - TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS IN THE VICINITY OF DISASTER/HAZARD AREAS

      1. What is the purpose and use of a TFR issued under this section?
      TFRs issued under this section address disaster/hazard situations and restrict flight operations within specified airspace, on a temporary basis, to provide protection

      . . .

      c. Section 91.137(a)(3). Restrictions issued under this Section prohibit all aircraft from operating in the designated area unless at least one of the following conditions are met:

      (1) The aircraft is operating directly to or from an airport within the area, or is necessitated by the impracticability of VFR flight above or around the area due to weather or terrain, and the operation is not conducted for the purpose of observing the incident or event. Notification must be given to the ATC/FSS facility specified in the NOTAM for coordination with the official in charge of the activity.

      (2) The aircraft is operating under an ATC approved IFR flight plan.

      (3) The aircraft is carrying incident or event personnel, or law enforcement officials.

      (4) The aircraft is carrying properly accredited news representatives and, before entering the area, a flight plan is filed with the appropriate FSS or ATC facility specified in the NOTAM.

      Is it typical to give disaster response coordinators who are not government officials the latitude to manage their own flights in the TFR region?  That's the question, I suppose.

      While I mentioned above that Exxon is supporting the move towards fascism in general, I can see why SparHawk countered that particular point about the TFR being an example of such without any other context.  But, as I mentioned, adding it into the the larger picture gives a different story.

      "So, please stay where you are. Don't move and don't panic. Don't take off your shoes! Jobs is on the way."

      by wader on Sat Apr 06, 2013 at 06:27:56 PM PDT

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      •  You are so right, I bow to your expertise (5+ / 0-)

        How silly of us to think that Exxon was controlling the airspace in order to keep the press from flying over and filming the spill and cleanup efforts.  Why, whatever would give us ideas like that?  I mean, it's not like they were ordering the local Sherrif to arrest the press or anything...yesterday.

        "We refuse to fight in a war started by men who refused to fight in a war." -freewayblogger

        by Bisbonian on Sat Apr 06, 2013 at 08:00:41 PM PDT

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        •  What's with the sarcasm? (7+ / 0-)

          I'm actually asking questions of procedure based on facts on the ground and even agreeing with you on the use of "fascism" in this case.  Because, as I alluded to, it's a two-pronged sword: perhaps it makes sense to give the clean-up company responsibility for a limited area and duration for reasons of reacting as efficiently as possible, but this being a corporation with liabilities to consider, they will also use that opening to hide as much as possible from public (and governmental) view.

          I think you're reading something into my tone which isn't there, unfortunately.  I am wondering if it's typical for the FAA to give local coordination to the actual responders, even if they are non-governmental personnel.  I enjoy questioning processes to determine what is awry.

          Or, perhaps this is another example of Republicans dismantling government for private aims: maybe there are so few bodies in the EPA, FAA, etc. that they don't have enough talented resources to spare for coordination and oversight at the site itself, so using the liable company has become de facto practice (see: BP spill in the Gulf of Mexico), which falls directly into Republican desires.

          "So, please stay where you are. Don't move and don't panic. Don't take off your shoes! Jobs is on the way."

          by wader on Sat Apr 06, 2013 at 08:09:38 PM PDT

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          •  There still isn't a lot of context here (1+ / 0-)
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            The two sources in question here are Inside Climate News and Mother Jones, not exactly neutral or unbiased organizations.

            We don't understand if the 'command center' is private property or not. We don't have a complete account of interactions between the reporters, Exxon officials, and police. We don't know on what legal basis most of this occurred, or even what legal basis Exxon is operating under in dealing with the spill.

            The diarist and the diary sources all are incentivized to make Exxon look bad, as demonstrated by the previous hyperventilating diary about routine flight bans in the affected area being evidence of a conspiracy. It needs to be that way, because a diary about a generally responsibly handled business-as-usual cleanup due to a (possibly negligent and irresponsible) accident doesn't make the rec list. I mean, could you see a diary describing what a good job Exxon did with the cleanup hitting the rec list? Me either.

            In any case, it is difficult to argue the Exxon is trying (or succeeding) to black out the media when a trivial amount of Googling finds photo album articles like this one. By all means, it is important to have public oversight of this mess and to understand how it happened, but hyperventilating about corporate fascism and the like doesn't help anyone (other than diarists and organizations looking for page views).

            (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
            Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

            by Sparhawk on Sun Apr 07, 2013 at 09:03:16 AM PDT

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