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  •  I'm a Christian (3+ / 0-)
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    fisheye, 3goldens, SchuyH

    Well, I'm a lemon (lapsed/cafeteria/defective) Catholic.

    And I'm more horrified by what so many do in the name of other religions.  Specifically, the #2 religion in the world.

    For all its faults, Catholicism adds far more value worldwide than other mainstream religions.

    Yet, those other religions are rarely castigated at DailyKos.

    Perhaps it's because Catholicism is far more tolerant of criticism than are other religions.

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    by PatriciaVa on Sun Apr 07, 2013 at 09:08:39 AM PDT

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    •  Catholicism isn't a religion – it is a branch of (6+ / 0-)

      Christianity.

      American exceptionalism is America's road to perdition.

      by Alexandre on Sun Apr 07, 2013 at 11:09:16 AM PDT

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      •  Depends who you ask (2+ / 0-)
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        Some fundamentalist sects would claim otherwise. They view Catholics as being maybe one notch above Mormons.

        If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

        by Major Kong on Sun Apr 07, 2013 at 12:01:31 PM PDT

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        •  would these be the same people (0+ / 0-)

          who say the world is 6,000 years old? ...that there are see-through streets made of gold in heaven? Just checking.

          Stay-at-home-Moms: Hard working unless they're on welfare, then they're lazy. Just ask any Republican.

          by musicsleuth on Sun Apr 07, 2013 at 01:00:21 PM PDT

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    •  This is a common concern (4+ / 0-)
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      I understand the idea.  

      The thing is that most of us don't live in a majority Muslim, Hindu, or Buddhist country.  

      I can guarantee you that if we lived in a secular country that was muslim dominated, but which also protected the rights of free speech, we would be speaking against that.  

      If you ask me, all religion is bogus.  It's very clearly an artifact of superstitious humans who had no understanding the things that actually cause the world around them to change in ways that makes them fearful.  

      Streichholzschächtelchen

      by otto on Sun Apr 07, 2013 at 11:28:42 AM PDT

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    •  To be fair, Catholics had The Title (3+ / 0-)
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      for a thousand years before the Protestant upstarts got past being burned at the stake en masse (by the Catholics) enough to proliferate from there. Funny how a thousand years so closely coincides with the whole of their 'end time' philosophy, isn't it?

      Now it's all the way down to congregations, each deciding for themselves and each other which of the tenets of the faith they believe in. Makes it handy that any given person has so much choice in finding a congregation that believes just like they do, but doesn't do much to actually define the religion anymore.

      It's been a couple of decades at least since I've called myself "a Christian," since the christianistas started giving it such a bad name. Now when asked I claim only to be a follower of Jesus (not Paul, not any supposed author of any Jesus narrative, not any pope or wannabe). If what Jesus promised for his followers is true, I figure he can figure out who really belongs to him.

    •  It's not because Catholicism is more tolerant (3+ / 0-)
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      it's because Christianity in general dominates the English-speaking world, and thus affects all our lives more than "other mainstream religions."  And also because Catholicism has an easily visible central authority that can easily be held to blame for the misdeeds of its various lesser clergy, because it is actually responsible -- in the sense that all Catholic clergy do ultimately answer to the Vatican.

      Other religions are too diffuse, too varied, and ultimately too weak to have the same kind of power.

      Hell, I'm Jewish Orthodox, and my life is affected against my will by Christianity more than by Judaism -- because there are correspondingly far fewer Jewish lawmakers in the US trying to pass and/or enforce laws that affect me based on their own reading of the Bible.  This has nothing to do with the relative merits or discredits of Christianity and Judaism; it's just that there are way more Christians than Jews here.

      ... in other words, it's Numbers, not Leviticus.  :D

    •  "other(s)are rarely castigated at DailyKos (0+ / 0-)

      Perhaps it's because Catholicism is far more tolerant." YES! That may well B so but also are so liberally inclined toward helping the poor & the needy that they really do not have very far to go to become religiously unfettered HUMANISTS.

    •  The #2 religion (as you say) (0+ / 0-)

      is the most widely and wildly maligned faith in the US, i.e. Islam. Most of this hatred has nothing to do with the Koran or Muhammad, but has everything to do with race and politics. Yes, we're so tolerant that we've been busy bombing Muslim countries for more than 20 years, murdering their children with drones, another 12 just today.

      I never liked you and I always will.

      by Ray Blake on Sun Apr 07, 2013 at 02:02:08 PM PDT

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    •  The major social legislation (0+ / 0-)

      and war on climate and biological science in the United States isn't being driven by Islam, Hinduism, Judaism, or Buddhism.  These are discussions about how political power is being exercised, not beliefs.

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