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  •  They were against the GOP itself (9+ / 0-)

    but a lot of their economic ideals remained credible with the public at large, even though the facts of the previous decade should have been more than enough to dispel these myths (the Democrats proposing a stimulus package so largely made up of tax cuts is evidence of their persistence).

    It was the perfect opportunity to educate the American public. Three simple rhetorical questions Obama could have asked to the Republican Party:

    1. After watching unaccountable financial institutions nearly derail the entire global economy, how is it conscionable to assert that these entities should continue to operate with little to no oversight?

    2. If tax cuts are the key to job creation, why did we experience sluggish job growth during the Bush presidency relative to that of his predecessor?

    3. If your answer to the above has anything to do with the emergence of the internet, largely a product of government investment, how do you reconcile that with your ongoing claims that government spending cannot produce positive economic outcomes?

    At this point in time, people have pretty much dug themselves in with their respective "team" and nothing is likely to be resolved. But in early 2009, even some conservatives were beginning to question the very basis of their economic ideals. Maybe I'm putting too much on it, but I honestly believe that Obama missed the opportunity for what was potentially a transformative moment in our history.

    •  Spot on again, both you and SLinMD... (4+ / 0-)

      But what are you going to do?

      So many are dependent upon this current monstrous system in so many different ways...

      The corporate capture of all important institutions to a functioning body public is trouble as well.

      I've been talking and writing about this for a long time, and nobody disagrees with said points. They disagree with the resolution.

      I believe that talking is important. There are so many more receptors for arguments against the corporate agenda today than 15 years ago.

      And you're absolutely right, it's a team or tribal thing.

      Democracy - 1 person 1 vote. Free Markets - More dollars more power.

      by k9disc on Sun Apr 07, 2013 at 04:06:30 PM PDT

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      •  Unfortunately (2+ / 0-)
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        the answer to your question is probably that we wait for another crisis and then hope to have more forward thinking individuals in positions of leadership.

        At best, I think we can fight for campaign reform in an attempt to push back some of that corporate power that you reference. However, this will likely be a long battle and I fear that economic crises will become much more common with the destabilizing wealth disparity that now defines our economy.

        Discussion is important, and one positive that could arise from Obama's disappointing stances on economic issues could be a revitalized left that understands that we cannot simply elect a Democrat and wait for them to fix everything. Action and accountability should be the mantra going forward. Ask our representatives what they need from us to enact more progressive economic legislation, and then follow through. But most importantly, if the don't follow through, get rid of them (even if it means possibly ceding office to a Republican in the short term) so that they understand that they WILL work for us if they want our vote.

        •  I think that IRV is a great trojan horse to (0+ / 0-)

          campaign finance reform and an end to the lesser to two evils, binary manipulation of the electorate by injecting too many dynamic variables into the equation. You can't just split your dough 55-45 to leverage influence while hedging your bets.

          Left and Right both would love to see it. The only ones who would oppose it are the corporate center and the corporate sponsored.

          I think that's a winner.

          Democracy - 1 person 1 vote. Free Markets - More dollars more power.

          by k9disc on Sun Apr 07, 2013 at 07:30:29 PM PDT

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    •  The GOP bootstrapping idea (0+ / 0-)

      and the GOP idea of how the rich are smarter and better than us and therefore deserve more both took a hit because of 1)the derailing of the global economy you mention, and more importantly 2)the bailouts. The ultra-rich were seen to come begging for the biggest handout of all time. That blew them up, propagandistically speaking.

      if necessary for years; if necessary, alone

      by SouthernLiberalinMD on Sun Apr 07, 2013 at 09:08:03 PM PDT

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