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  •  Wonderful diary. Lots of excellent work. Thanks. (5+ / 0-)
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    Now having said that because I do appreciate all this, I still need to get this off my chest:

    "Democrats," you had a presidential candidate in the debates who said that he voted against the USA PATRIOT Act "Because I read it!"

    He was GENUINELY working towards Health "care" for all and Health "insurance" for none. Single-payer health care doesn't need an advertising budget.

    He had actual experience as a Mayor who was being gamed by the big utility businesses and banks and he stood them down, risking his political future but knowing that the Rule of Law must come first.

    I am so pissed about this because just maybe we wouldn't even be in this position if you had chosen this candidate.
    But instead you laughed him off the stage, let AARP and others keep him off the stage, and more than once threw me right off this site for bringing him up.

    The rules used to be tighter here- one diary a day, only one, maybe two diaries on a particular topic at the time, etc. I never insulted anybody, and yet I got tossed off this site several times for continuing to mention a persona non grata named Kucinich.

    Rhymes with spinach and he may not be to your taste but we all need some.

    So please, when you consider where the PATRIOT ACT came from- I consider that any Congressman who voted FOR it without READING it is guilty of dereliction of duty.

    Everybody knows you have to read the fine print- the devil is in the details.  And everybody should know NOT to sign anything if you haven't or it's a blank check. Why did they do it? That does not represent us. We send them there to do the paperwork for us.

    And don't tell me it was just too damn long to read. It WAS. That's why it should have been rejected out of hand. There should be both a limit to how long a bill can be and a legal requirement that your Representative should read it and not just accept what's been said about it, even by their staff members.

    So please remember, 'Democrats" that you had the ball. You guys dropped it. How the hell are people supposed to vote for Democrats when you won't acknowledge KUCINICH?

    We are all pupils in the eyes of God.

    by nuclear winter solstice on Tue Jul 09, 2013 at 03:19:59 AM PDT

    •  I am sorry you got banned for backing another (3+ / 0-)


      That would suck.

      But I am also thankful that you spoke out when you could about the Patriot Act. Who knows how many people you got engaged with the discussion over time?

      Every little bit helps.

      •  thanks for letting me rant in your diary. and on (4+ / 0-)
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        the other hand, there seems to be a new group of people here these days, as I am getting a lot more positive responses from people who hadn't seen things like that when it was in progress.

        But he's very important and should have been drafted as the anti-war candidate (again- how are we supposed to vote for a democrat when both sides put up a war candidate?) because I first discovered him when C-SPAN was showing this funky little man, waving a piece of paper in the empty Chamber of Congress (That was the day I learned that no, Congress did not have to show up and actually listen to what each other has to say) and he was saying this:

        'The CIA sent me and every other Congress person a letter. It said that Bin Laden is not a threat to us or to his neighbors as long as he is not backed into a corner.'

        Instead of listening to him and everyone asking their Congressman if he got one of those CIA letters, we simply made sure to back Bin Laden into a corner.

        I believed Scott Ritter and Dennis Kucinich in those days, the days when Hillary also was derelict in her duty by deliberately not taking time to read the 99 page NIE. Again, access to those things is why we send people to Congress to go see for us and make the informed vote. She seemed to think that by saying she was not entirely sure what it said that she could play both sides until she could ascertain which would win- Truth, or the war machine.

        ...of course how we could expect any truth when the President himself is allowed to lie to and mislead an actual Joint Session of Congress (see SOTU + 16 words) I still don't understand either...

        What do we do now? Well I haven't seen him for a while so I don't know if he's up to it any more (we're all a decade older now) but if possible I would say: Kucinich/Biden 2016.

        We are all pupils in the eyes of God.

        by nuclear winter solstice on Tue Jul 09, 2013 at 06:52:28 AM PDT

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