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  •  Do you think for a moment that they wouldn't (1+ / 0-)
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    had they not been stripped of their political and legal authority by our secular government?  They only stopped things like that because they weren't allowed to make and enforce the rules anymore.  Our founders pulled their teeth because religion is seldom able to resist torture and murder to promote faith when it has the power to do so with impunity.

    You seem to think they've evolved, and if we're speaking strictly of the majority of the laity, I would agree.  Speaking of religions as organizations, however, I think we'd better keep them toothless, just in case.

    "Forecast for tomorrow? A few sprinkles of genius with a chance of doom!" -Stewie Griffin

    by quillsinister on Tue Apr 09, 2013 at 08:00:31 AM PDT

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    •  So the answer is: none. n/t (0+ / 0-)
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        If so, the list is extensive.  Even in America there is a long tale written in blood of the appeasement of gods.  That is why, in these more civilized times, we prevent religious organizations from making the rules.  We've learned the hard way that people whose worldview is based on phantasmagoria seem to have an uncanny knack for turning to murder and other sundry unpleasantries to get their way.

        Think of it like one of those commercials for dandruff shampoo.  One man is complaining about religious zealots running amok in his country and the other man suggests that he try a secular shampoo based on Enlightenment principles like reason.  The first man says, surprised, "But Joe, you don't suffer from religious zealots running amok."  The other man replies with a smug grin, "Exactly, Bob."

        So, yes, the answer is none at present.  But this is not because of the advanced wisdom of (to paraphrase your original question) the religious authorities who administer our penal code, but rather because religious authorities don't administer our penal code.  Is that a bit clearer now?

        "Forecast for tomorrow? A few sprinkles of genius with a chance of doom!" -Stewie Griffin

        by quillsinister on Wed Apr 10, 2013 at 11:43:11 AM PDT

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