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  •  Alternate universes on Dailykos. (12+ / 0-)

    Imagine one universe where Barack Obama announced multiple times plans to cutback SS and Medicare payments.  And some people understood that to mean exactly what it sounded like.  

    But one group of people on DailyKos who believed in their own private universe insisted stridently that that would never happen and that it was all just political strategery designed to fool the Republicans in some way, and that it was terribly divisive to suggest otherwise.

    I've been coexisting for a long time with the equivalent of global warming deniers on DailyKos.  

    So lectures about alternate universes are all well taken here.  I've had my lesson about alternate universes.  There was the alternate universe where any report of words that came out of Obama's mouth that didn't fit the narrative could be excused away, and that any policy proposals that contradicted their faith could only be a political feint, nothing to be taken seriously.

    And now, of course, we have the situation where such global warming denying (let's call it CPI denying) is becoming less tenable, so we see a gradual shift in this view of the alternate universe -- not to the real universe, but to a new alternate universe where Obama is the victim here of those people who weren't blind about where this was all leading.

    Of course, chained CPI is no big deal.  Minor trimming, as one poster put it.  Yup, sure.  It would have been nice, though, to have heard that up front, rather than to hear delusional statements that it would never happen because Obama was too pure-hearted to ever REALLY consider doing such a thing, and that people saying such things were only trying to harm the president.

    Yup.  People and their alternate universes.

    The sheer irony of this diary.  Wow.

    •  I lost track of who was talking about who (7+ / 0-)

      right about here:

      It created a space where honest, intelligent people could interact without being shouted down or their constructive synergy suffocated by willful ignorance, conspiracy theories, and the deliberate lies of malicious assholes.

      Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us.
      ~ Jerry Garcia

      by DeadHead on Tue Apr 09, 2013 at 02:50:03 AM PDT

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    •  I'm sorry, which Obama conspiracy are we talking (1+ / 0-)
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      about now?  I never know which ones the Derangementariat have scheduled.  Is the plot to invade Iran scheduled for next week, or is that time booked for a retrospective on the infinite number of Obama conspiracies that were heroically thwarted before they happened?

      Going faster miles an hour, with the radio on.

      by Troubadour on Tue Apr 09, 2013 at 03:00:24 AM PDT

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      •  Hey, I still have hopes that the CPI (6+ / 0-)

        cuts will be thwarted, but not by Democrats.  The Teabagger Republicans might be so stuck on their "Say No to Obama on Everything" policy that they say no to that, too.

        In that case, strangely enugh, they will be the heroes.  Funny, isn't it.

        •  No, your total derangement is not funny. (0+ / 0-)

          It's sickening.  You can lazily predict that Republicans will say no, but can't even imagine that that is what the President is counting on.  Totally unthinkable!  And you would rather call Teabaggers "heroes" than Barack Obama.  You're in Jane Hamsher land now.

          Going faster miles an hour, with the radio on.

          by Troubadour on Tue Apr 09, 2013 at 04:01:56 AM PDT

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          •  I think you're going too far there. (0+ / 0-)

            If one party is voting to protect Social Security, and the other is offering to cut it, which party is performing better re: Social Security?  Your argument that it would be to Obama's credit if they say no to his offer is made to look ridiculous by the fact that, well, it's his offer in the first place.  

            And, of course, there's the greater possibility that it will pass, and be signed in to law, and Obama will take credit for being so bipartisan.  At that point, you'll have a new excuse for why he's a hero, I'm sure, but I've already discounted that, so fine, start working on that one now if you like.

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