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  •  the absurd "logic" of the "yes, but millions ... (2+ / 0-)
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    melfunction, milton333

    ... of gun owners' guns never shoot anybody" argument becomes pretty clear if you attach one simple hypothetical number to the issue.

    typical guesses are that about 100,000,000 US households possess a firearm.

    if only 1% of those households' firearms were used in a given year to kill someone, that would still "mean" that 99% of those gun-owning households were operated by putatively safe, responsible gun-owners who surely shouldn't be punished for the non-feasance of the mere 1%.

    and we'd be looking at a national bloodbath of 1,000,000 deaths per year.

    it doesn't seem to occur to them that upping the ante by upping the total gun ownership implies that the restraints on where/when/how those guns are stored/transported/"borne" must be increased proportionally. if there were only 1,000,000 gun-owning homes, "we" could perhaps tolerate a failure rate of .1%. with 10,000,000, that tolerance drops to .01%. with 100,000,000, it drops to .001%. currently, it's 30 or 40 times that -- and that is taking into account fatalities only. the more general gun-fail rate, if you include every inadvertent (or even deliberate) firing of a weapon that destroys anything other than the miscreant's pride or an appropriate target, appears to be closer to .1%.

    every time i read a gun-fail about one of these yahoos accidentally firing a weapon while cleaning it, or while preparing to clean it, or while putting it away after cleaning it, i ask myself: Why The Fuck Is That Guy Sitting at his Table Cleaning his Handgun? a properly stored handgun will sit, uncleaned, unconcerned, and undamaged, for a long, long, long time. the only time you need to clean a properly stored handgun is after you've used it -- which means, you should have cleaned the damn thing wherever you were when you were using it.

    the answer, of course, is simple. they aren't cleaning it because it needs to be cleaned, they're cleaning it because of the little erotic tickle they get out of stroking the bore with the cleaning tool.

    this is my first New Rule of gun ownership: if you are observed cleaning your handgun anywhere other than an approved handgun-cleaning facility, 100% of your guns are confiscated, and you are never allowed to own one again -- nor are you allowed to live in a home where a gun is kept.

    if we can tell some guy who once made a pass at a 15-year-old who looked like an 18-year-old that he can't come within 100 yards of a school, it seems like we fuckin' a ought to be able to tell a reckless fuckwit that he can't come within 50 feet of a gun. if we can tell some guy who got caught selling a bag of weed to a friend of a friend that he is never again allowed to vote (a convenient mechanism for disenfranchising the underclass), we sure as hell ought to be able to tell somebody who accidentally blew a hole through three walls and into the neighbor's house that we are taking his goddamned toys away, forever.

    To put the torture behind us is, inevitably, to put it in front of us.

    by UntimelyRippd on Tue Apr 09, 2013 at 10:29:56 AM PDT

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