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  •  and btw, I have a degree in political science (4+ / 0-)
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    I have studied political history.  Many of the Democrats elected in the 1930s and 1940s in places that are now considered conservative were conservative Democrats.  States were more willing to consider someone with a different ideological bent in some periods more than now (see Frank Church), but they tend to elect people who reflect their views.

    ...better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity, than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference. -FDR, 1936

    by James Allen on Tue Apr 09, 2013 at 12:55:54 PM PDT

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    •  Then why do you think KY can only elect (0+ / 0-)

      conservatives and GOP-like Democrats?

      It is an old strategy of tyrants to delude their victims into fighting their battles for them. FDR

      by Betty Pinson on Tue Apr 09, 2013 at 01:31:06 PM PDT

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      •  perhaps because it is true, (1+ / 0-)
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        or at least I've seen enough evidence suggesting so that I believe it.

        ...better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity, than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference. -FDR, 1936

        by James Allen on Tue Apr 09, 2013 at 06:03:26 PM PDT

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        •  You'll never know unless you try (0+ / 0-)

          and there's nothing to be gained by caving to Republicans.

          Remember what Harry Truman said "Give voters a choice between a real Republican and a fake one and they'll chose the real one every time".

          I'm a Harry Truman Democrat, I believe in supporting my party, selling its values and fighting the GOP.

          It is an old strategy of tyrants to delude their victims into fighting their battles for them. FDR

          by Betty Pinson on Tue Apr 09, 2013 at 06:24:03 PM PDT

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          •  Sure, we can try. (1+ / 0-)
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            But look at Republicans.  They ran pretty solid conservatives in 2010 in places on the opposite end from Kentucky in places like California (Carly Fiorina) and Washington (Dino Rossi).  Republicans have yet to knock off a Democrat in a blue state with a conservative.  What makes you think we can knock off a Republican in a red state with a liberal?

            And if we try, it's not just a scientific experiment.  We more likely than not do worse than we would have otherwise and we potentially drag down the Democrats in the State Legislature, which we partially hold right now.

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            by jncca on Tue Apr 09, 2013 at 08:36:01 PM PDT

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            •  It's the bad economy (0+ / 0-)

              Conservative voters focus less on wedge issues when the economy is in trouble, when they have to worry about making ends meet.

              The ongoing bad economy also makes GOP voters question their own party and its candidates.  They're upset that their party is focusing on BS issues instead of trying to get the economy back on track.  They're beginning to question conservative doctrine on trickle down economics as their families, friends and communities are being devastated by a recession that grinds on without relief.

              Failure of any party to resolve pocketbook issues is always a threat to voter loyalty.

              It is an old strategy of tyrants to delude their victims into fighting their battles for them. FDR

              by Betty Pinson on Wed Apr 10, 2013 at 05:56:17 AM PDT

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