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    Sherrod Brown focuses on jobs, Social Security & Medicare - very popular issues even with wide swathes of  conservatives, especially during a bad economy.

    You don't need to run to the right on those issues - the Republicans already have a record of failure (if Obama isn't careful, we'll be joining the GOP in the dog house on those issues).

    It is an old strategy of tyrants to delude their victims into fighting their battles for them. FDR

    by Betty Pinson on Tue Apr 09, 2013 at 01:10:01 PM PDT

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    •  well now you're not even responding to me. (2+ / 0-)
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      R30A, NMLib

      I agree that we don't need to run people who are right wing on economics in Kentucky.  

      ...better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity, than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference. -FDR, 1936

      by James Allen on Tue Apr 09, 2013 at 01:11:26 PM PDT

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      •  Then you don't need to run a Blue Dog (0+ / 0-)

        who has to rely on money from corporations who are bad for jobs and bad for SS & Medicare.

        Ashley Judd would have been just fine, and she wouldn't have needed to rely on corporate cash to run her campaign.  There's nothing the GOP could have said about her that was worse than what was said about Sen. Barack Obama, yet we backed him when he ran.  

        Why is there a different standard when it comes to Dem women candidates?  Why do Dems only support women candidates if they're quiet, obedient and don't advocate strongly for issues?  Dems used to support bright, outspoken women candidates who ran for and won elections.  Now they seem to only support cookie cutter types who will do as they're told.  

        The days of great Dem women leaders like Pat Schroeder and Bella Abzug are over.

        It is an old strategy of tyrants to delude their victims into fighting their battles for them. FDR

        by Betty Pinson on Tue Apr 09, 2013 at 01:29:10 PM PDT

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        •  its not different because Judd was a woman (2+ / 0-)
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          we backed Obama, but Obama lost Kentucky with only 41% in 2008, and did worse in 2012.  Running a candidate like Obama is a non-starter.  They could not even make it competitive.  As the polling shown here demonstrates, once McConnell's allies started hammering Judd's beliefs, her numbers tanked.

          And there's plenty to distinguish KY Dems from Republicans on besides economic issues.

          ...better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity, than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference. -FDR, 1936

          by James Allen on Tue Apr 09, 2013 at 06:10:42 PM PDT

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          •  You have to do the ground work (0+ / 0-)

            You have to sell Dem values and candidates 24/7, every year to rebuild support.   Charismatic candidates every 8 years or so doesn't get the job done.

            That's why Howard Dean's 50 state strategy was so brilliant.  Unfortunately, it was anathema to the corporate donors and their quisling Dems.

            It is an old strategy of tyrants to delude their victims into fighting their battles for them. FDR

            by Betty Pinson on Tue Apr 09, 2013 at 06:28:23 PM PDT

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        •  What the hell are you talking about? (2+ / 0-)
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          Many of us backed candidates like Tammy Baldwin and Elizabeth Warren, as far as I can tell, neither of them have ever been accused of being wallflowers or not staking out their positions. What you're basically saying is that we would have had no problem whatsoever if instead of Ashley Judd who was considering a run it was George Clooney instead.

          Throwing around sexism as a reason why many of us didn't support Judd in Kentucky is insulting when you have no evidence to back it up other than we didn't support Judd, and she happens to be a progressive woman (like I said before, I'm absolutely happy with progressive women, we need more of them, not less of them, not just for women, but for progressive politics in general).

          Politics and more Formerly DGM on SSP. NM-01, 26 (chairman of the Atheist Caucus)

          by NMLib on Tue Apr 09, 2013 at 06:39:17 PM PDT

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