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  •  Read? History? How do you spell that? (24+ / 0-)

    Even if Americans had a clue who Steinbeck was, the corporate Democrats really don't care how poor anybody gets as long as it isn't them.   They are the loathed DLC and Obama/Clinton is their leader.  

    2014 is going to be a blood bath.   Nobody trust the Dems or anybody who supports them.  Warnings about the "Supreme Court" are old and tired.  If you're going to lose anyway, might as well take everybody else down with you.   It is only when it hits bottom and crashes and burns that a new beginning can rise out of the ashes.  

    What we need is a Democrat in the White House.

    by dkmich on Wed Apr 10, 2013 at 04:58:53 AM PDT

    •  Yup. (24+ / 0-)

      And the local 'those who will not see' will instantly turn around and blame the far left folks for not turning out.  I can't remember how many times I've had to say it - You go to the polls with the voters that exist, not the ones in your fevered imagination.  If you lose, it's because your candidates did things those voters found unappealing.

      It was bad enough when the corporate Dems merely ignored 70/30 polls right and left in 2010.  Now many of them are ignoring 90/10 polls.  The corporate Dems are blatantly not giving a flying .... about the wishes of the American people, who continue to be far to the left of them on issue after issue.  And the result is predictable.  Many of them will be booted to the curb, and more Repubs will get into office, unless those specific Repub candidates screw up as badly as Mourdock and Akin.  I'm so tired of pinning all my hopes on Republicans candidates being complete and utterly obvious nutballs.

    •  The longer Kagan sits on the court, the weaker the (5+ / 0-)
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      Supreme Court argument gets.

      Michelle and I send our thoughts to the Thatcher family and all the British people as we carry on the work to which she dedicated her life" President Obama, on the passing of Margaret Thatcher.

      by JesseCW on Wed Apr 10, 2013 at 06:51:42 AM PDT

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      •  She's a reliable corporatist, isn't she? nt (2+ / 0-)
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        Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

        by corvo on Wed Apr 10, 2013 at 06:53:44 AM PDT

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        •  Where is this anti-Kagan sentiment coming from? (1+ / 0-)
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          Seriously, I don't get it. Leaving aside cases where the Court votes unanimously, she seems to be a fairly consistent liberal vote, as far as I can see. She may not cast every single vote the way I'd want her to; but then again, if I were on the Court, I wouldn't cast every single vote the way that I'd want to.

          Let us all have the strength to see the humanity in our enemies, and the courage to let them see the humanity in ourselves.

          by Nowhere Man on Wed Apr 10, 2013 at 09:43:15 AM PDT

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          •  She already voted to seriously damage Miranda (1+ / 0-)
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            has been very creative about when she recuses herself.

            Sotomayor, on the other hand, shows it was entirely possible to appoint and confirm a moderate Justice.

            The President just didn't want to do it twice.

            Michelle and I send our thoughts to the Thatcher family and all the British people as we carry on the work to which she dedicated her life" President Obama, on the passing of Margaret Thatcher.

            by JesseCW on Wed Apr 10, 2013 at 12:53:31 PM PDT

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            •  She also wrote the majority opinion (0+ / 0-)

              in Miller v. Alabama, and joined Breyer's dissents in Western Tradition Partnership, Inc. v. Montana  (a follow-up to Citizens United) and Clapper v. Amnesty International. All of these cases were decided on the typical 5-4 vote.

              I think it's unproductive to judge a Justice on the basis of any one vote, and especially without careful examination of the reasoning in the opinion (regardless of whether the Justice in question wrote that opinion or merely joined in it.) Sometimes they need to follow their head, not their heart. (Strictly speaking, they always need to do that -- but Justices being as human* as the rest of us, that's a bit much to ask of them.)

              * Yes, even Scalia.

              Let us all have the strength to see the humanity in our enemies, and the courage to let them see the humanity in ourselves.

              by Nowhere Man on Wed Apr 10, 2013 at 01:17:53 PM PDT

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            •  And have a look at this one (0+ / 0-)

              Elgin v. Department of Treasury. At least on the face of it, the progressive side lost this one. Joining in the majority were Breyer and Sotomayor. In dissent: Kagan, Ginsburg, and Alito(!), who wrote the dissenting opinion(!!).

              It's not always about ideology.

              Let us all have the strength to see the humanity in our enemies, and the courage to let them see the humanity in ourselves.

              by Nowhere Man on Wed Apr 10, 2013 at 01:24:47 PM PDT

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              •  Except when, you know, it is. This is a Justice w (0+ / 0-)

                very simply has little regard for the rights of the individual and who is flatly unwilling to cross her former boss at any turn.

                Michelle and I send our thoughts to the Thatcher family and all the British people as we carry on the work to which she dedicated her life" President Obama, on the passing of Margaret Thatcher.

                by JesseCW on Wed Apr 10, 2013 at 01:33:40 PM PDT

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                •  Did you look at the cases I cited above? (1+ / 0-)
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                  How about Comcast Corp. v. Behrend? Or Amgen Inc. v. Connecticut Retirement Plans and Trust Funds? Do her votes in those decisions fit with the "reliable corporatist" label?

                  And didn't she have a few good things to say in the DOMA case? (Yes, she did.)

                  I'm sorry, but the claim that she has "little regard for the rights of the individual" does not appear to be supported by evidence.

                  Let us all have the strength to see the humanity in our enemies, and the courage to let them see the humanity in ourselves.

                  by Nowhere Man on Wed Apr 10, 2013 at 01:53:20 PM PDT

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      •  Until (0+ / 0-)

        President Mitch Daniels or Bobby Jindal starts appointing conservatives to replace Ruth Bader Ginsberg and Steven Breyer. Then it doesn't look so weak at all.

        •  I'm gonna go talk to people who know enough (2+ / 0-)
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          about politics to understand why the threat of "President Bobby Jindal" is hilarious.

          Michelle and I send our thoughts to the Thatcher family and all the British people as we carry on the work to which she dedicated her life" President Obama, on the passing of Margaret Thatcher.

          by JesseCW on Wed Apr 10, 2013 at 12:54:27 PM PDT

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