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  •  In fact it won't (2+ / 0-)
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    Bob Johnson, KenBee

    As has been mentioned, background checks would have not likely kept guns out of anyone hands.  The guns were bought legally.  What is worse is the left is being out flanked by the NRA in creating these new laws while the real problem, and other flank, the gun industry of New England and the Carolinas, are allowed to profit off death.

    As has also been mentioned, for day to day murder of children, the guns may be illegal but this bill will not stop the flow of those guns?  Why?  Because the NRA does not allow the enforcement of gun laws.  We cannot determine which gun shops are funneling guns to criminals and terrorists because we cannot have then report stock.  How hard is it to type a salse into a database?

    More importantly, we cannot keep background check records.  They used to be kept for 30 days, but now they must be destroyed within a short time frame, which for all practical intents and purposes means immediately.

    The upshot of this is that we cannot track straw purchases.  And the data suggests that straw purchases are a problem.  For instance, while Texas has 1 gun shop for every 5000 people, Vermont has a gun shop for every 1500 people or so.  How can Vermont keep such a high level of gun shops?  By selling to locals, or by engaging in a pattern of straw purchases?  Guns in Vermont are only supposed to be sold to Vermont or sold through the local FFL of the home state of the buyer.  But how hard it is to find a senior form on of the 20 colleges and universities to buy a gun, a record that will be lost because background check records are destroyed?  Vermont is a days drive from Chicago.  Go buy a gun and the next day it can be used in a drive by that kills 4 innocent kids

    We see the same thing in New Mexico.  Las Curcas, an hours drive from Juarez, Mexico, has 40 gun shops for a population of 100,000

    The death industry is not going to protest anything that is not going to effect sales.  Background checks that do not involve straw man minimization is not going to effect sales.

    •  No doubt. (5+ / 0-)

      The truth is that the NRA supports guns going to criminals (by preventing efforts to track how guns get to criminals) for the simple reason that it's good for business for the organization's biggest backers -- the gun makers.

      The gun makers don't give a rat's ass where the guns go as long as they go. Thus, the NRA does not want the public to know where the guns go or how they get there.

      Suggested liberal gun lovers' motto: "More liberal than the NRA on everything except guns."

      by Bob Johnson on Wed Apr 10, 2013 at 10:05:08 AM PDT

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