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  •  Not too many people on this site. Sadly. (11+ / 0-)

    Anyone who thought the GOP would accept Obama's offer are insane. And now that the GOP are condemning SS cuts, exactly how was that crap ever a realistic possibility? This isn't 11 dimensional chess. It's checkers. And the GOP has made the move that anyone could have predicted. The final budget is the only one voters will remember all those months from now. And the GOP have just guaranteed that those cuts will not be part of it.

    Welcome To The Disinformation Age!

    by kitebro on Wed Apr 10, 2013 at 01:59:44 PM PDT

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    •  Everyone will remember this budget proposal (16+ / 0-)

      even if the final budget is different. The fact that it was even proposed will be in every Republican House candidate's commercial.

      •  But associated with the administration, not Dems (1+ / 0-)
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        Easy enough for everyone to decry it as a bad idea, both Democrats and Republicans; there's been no vote.  

        Is there anyone who might actually support this?  Maybe the Tea Party?  What would be the effect of all the Democrats and 30% of the Republicans aligned against the Tea Party on this issue?

        •  When Republicans had to run against Bush in 2006 (2+ / 0-)
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          it was disastrous. Most voters find intraparty squabbling disgusting and unpleasant, and much prefer to vote for a party with a unified message even if they disagree with that message.

          One big reason Democrats did so badly in 2010 is that all the political news stories were about Democrats not being able to agree on this or that and thus not accomplishing everything they'd campaigned on. There were many Senators and Representatives who helped tank Democratic legislation in order to run against their own party in conservative districts. They were the first to get thrown out.

          •  Is this the same thing, though? (0+ / 0-)

            What I drew from the Bush years is that Republicans are not to be trusted under any circumstances.  Was that due to the Bush administration or in addition congress acting in lockstep?  In other words was 2006 a repudiation of Republican objectives or was it simply a way to put the brakes on he Bush administration. or are the 2 even separable?

            Was 2010 about poorly motivated Democrats or ultra-motivated Republicans?  Or both and why?

            To what extent can we infer broad statements covering nebulous circumstances, or what is more about the particulars.

            As for me, I'm willing to forgive and continue to be motivated with the following scenario which of course I kind of hinted at previously.

            After broad condemnation by both Democrats and some Republicans, the administration retracts its chained CPI idea.  But in addition is must be able to control the narrative in the following way:

            "In good faith, we tried to meet what we thought was the Republican position halfway, but have since found out that it is desired by neither the majority of Democrats nor Republicans but only a vocal minority.  This is too important not to take seriously and Republicans need to come to a decision what they want and say it, or come to a realization they don't know what they want an say that.  The American people deserve no less."

        •  Cue Up More GOP Freak Show Graphics! (1+ / 0-)
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          OMG they are more scary than us don't forget it.  Jed, roll out the photos and quotes!  This budget will pass if we keep the focus on the silly stuff!

    •  Looking on the bright side--now we can agree (6+ / 0-)

      no one--not Democrats, not Republicans--thinks chained CPI is a good idea.

    •  All Obama needs is just enough R's and just enough (3+ / 0-)
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      And the picking at the carcass of SocSec and Medicare can begin.

    •  So do we credit POTUS with causing... (0+ / 0-)

      ...GOP to come out and not support cuts to SS because POTUS came out first in support of cuts to SS!?  Intentional or not it just might work. But what of Medicare ?

      Our nations quality of life is based on the rightousness of its people.

      by kalihikane on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 10:37:00 PM PDT

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