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  •  So why did everyone follow Clinton and take NAFTA? (3+ / 0-)
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    I still can't see how Democrats did that, I don't care one whit about how charismatic he may be to some, but then I've been a Kucinich fan for years. Now there's a real Democrat. IMHO.

    •  NAFTA was the precursor to WTO (11+ / 0-)

      WTO simply took NAFTA global.

      The corporados LOVE both NAFTA and the WTO. They will (and have) fight even their own national governments, including the US, to defend WTO and NAFTA.

      And that's why both the Dem Party and the Repug Party love them too.

      NAFTA, ironically, was a failure, not because it didn't do what the corporados wanted it to (it did), but because when China opened up as a low-wage no-regulation haven, the corporados all stormed out of Mexico and moved to China instead, leaving the Mexican maquiladora sector a ghost town.

      And now that wages in China are beginning to go up, those same corporados are already beginning to pull out and run to the next low-wage havens in Vietnam and Indonesia.

      •  cambodia too ... n/t (1+ / 0-)
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        There are moments when the body is as numinous as words, days that are the good flesh continuing. -- Robert Hass

        by srkp23 on Wed Apr 10, 2013 at 09:05:31 PM PDT

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      •  Tangential to what's being discussed at the end... (3+ / 0-)
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        joanneleon, Creosote, lotlizard

        ...of this thread is the greater reality/claim, even in the Truthout piece that's referenced in my first comment, above, that tells us that only 6 (or so) of the 24+/- sections of this entire Agreement really relate to traditional trade agreements. The rest of the document, so we're told, contains much of what's most disconcerting--not just to the author[s] of this Truthout piece, but something I've heard from others that may be even more familiar with the most recent TPP Agreement drafts. So, how does this information correlate (or not correlate) with some of the statements that I've just read upthread?

        "I always thought if you worked hard enough and tried hard enough, things would work out. I was wrong." --Katharine Graham

        by bobswern on Wed Apr 10, 2013 at 09:08:25 PM PDT

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