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  •  Well, as I see it, the REPEACE approach, like (34+ / 0-)

    others, employs, at least in part, Direct Action.

    It recognizes that using government middle men is flawed, at best, especially in the corrupted, rigged system we have.

    One of the things we need to do in order to change the system is change ourselves.

    We have to become more mindful of our choices and participatory in making decisions in the marketplace and the public square.

    We have to learn to cooperate and find greater meaning in working together to create change in fundamental ways in our day to day lives.

    Frankly, I'd rather take down Exxon or Goldman Sachs, the way we're taking down RushBeckistan, than elect another "better" Democrat whose going to wind up singing for the bankster choir.

    by Words In Action on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 12:19:20 AM PDT

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    •  sort of like the "communist" nations (0+ / 0-)

      under the rule of the stalinists

      •  Crummy, dishonest, disingenuous comparison. (10+ / 0-)

        The RW puts a lot of energy into trying to sow the meme that liberalism and liberal social policies the progressive grassroots is all about creating, are tantamount to "Communism" and to the corrupt, dysfunctional behemoth of the USSR (which some of us are old enough to remember, btw).

        Thanks for doing the work of the RW.

        It's here they got the range/ and the machinery for change/ and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. --Leonard Cohen

        by karmsy on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 05:45:31 AM PDT

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      •  Hi, Isabelle! (4+ / 0-)

        Would you mind expanding on this a little bit? It sounds like you're comparing direct action by citizens, which is possibly the truest form of democracy with the totalitarian perversion of Communism practiced in the Soviet Union.

        If that's what you're doing, comparing folks who are discontent with President Obama and apparatchiks of the 1950s, then I'll have to disagree with you.

        •  Perhaps what she means (1+ / 0-)
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          is that the real revolution that would have liberated the people was co-opted and stolen by the Bolsheviks. A lot of people don't know the history. The Soviet Union never really was communism, and the result gave communism a black eye, since people tend to conflate the oppressive regime in the USSR with true communism, to the point that one can't even utter the word without recriminations.

          Sad. When the people in Russia tried to collectivize, the Bolsheviks suppressed them. They wanted total control, a "dictatorship of the proletariat" that had been first suggested in Marx's writings. The real revolution in Russia was put down by the Bolsheviks. The world never got to see real communism in Russia.

          And furthermore, Marx wasn't the only voice in socialism.

          I'm not sure but maybe she's suggesting that the situation we have in the US is similar, in that true progressivism is being suppressed by faux progressives in government.

          I could be reading her intent wrongly, but this is one possible interpretation.

          "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

          by ZhenRen on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 09:26:19 AM PDT

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        •  thanks for asking (0+ / 0-)

          rereading my comment i can't really understand it myself, 12 hours later, but what i had in mind was feeling an affinity for the russian people all those years who were being fed the stalinist crap (i don't agree about it having been the bolsheviks, except for those who went along with the madman)

          and how the peaceful revolution of 1991 kept the good things that had happened since the end of the rule of the elite, without the murders, repression, etc., until now, that is, with the rule of the oligarchy

          also the reference in the original comment about how we need to work together to defeat the 1%'s agenda reminded me also of the russian spirit all those years

          having just watched a film about those who were young at the time of glasnost, when all of a sudden, everything that was accepted as the power, and had been tolerated by most of the people all along, and which had been recognized as crippled as well as crippling...just went away...

          well, that reminded me of us

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