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  •  Standard capacity magazines don't fumble (4+ / 0-)
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    in a gun. They insert slick as snot. Reduced capacity magazines would do the same.

    Extended capacity (~30 for a pistol, 100 round drum for a semi- rifle) magazines, those fumble and jam, and often fail to feed.

    Non enim propter gloriam, diuicias aut honores pugnamus set propter libertatem solummodo quam Nemo bonus nisi simul cum vita amittit. -Declaration of Arbroath

    by Robobagpiper on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 11:08:28 AM PDT

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    •  That depends on the person, doesn't it? (6+ / 0-)

      Some one with little experience, in a what I image could be a nerve-racking experience, may not have as easy a time as you. And any amount of time between shots can save lives. I noticed you didn't actually answer my question though.

      Lo que separa la civilizacion de la anarquia son solo siete comidas.

      by psilocynic on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 11:10:53 AM PDT

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      •  i'm in agreement with you here - the adam (5+ / 0-)

        lanzas and the aurora shooter and the mall shooter fanasize, but when reality hits, the "speed" of their having to reload may be enough to allow someone to tackle the sucker.

        smaller clips mean extra weight having to carry MORE clips to get the same destructive results - and more time for people to escape the area.

        as a friend said once, the only reason for a hunter to have high capacity magazines would be to make hamburger in the field.  not productive!

        EdriesShop Is it kind? is it true? is it necessary?

        by edrie on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 12:50:45 PM PDT

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      •  Designers try very hard to make the reloading (4+ / 0-)

        process smooth, easy, and foolproof. With just a little practice, it should be. I am not the diarist, but in answer to the question you initially posed, I am not aware of any range that restricts the size of the magazine used in any gun they allow to be used there. A rifle like an AR15 that uses detachable magazines normally won't fire without one inserted. Even if you are feeding rounds directly into the firing chamber individually for each shot, the presence of the magazine fills what would otherwise be a large hole when the action is open, making the process of inserting an individual round easier.
             Regarding the question of rifles more powerful than the AR15, most of the semiautomatic rifles used for deer hunting and the like, which fire rounds more powerful than the .556 NATO round used in most AR15s, aren't designed to use large-capacity magazines. My Remington 742 rifle, for example, which fires .308 caliber rounds, normally uses a four-round detachable magazine, although it can be modified slightly to use ten-round magazines. The Springfield M1A rifle used in some competitive shooting events, though, which uses the same caliber ammunition and could be used to hunt deer, is modeled after the former military M14, and is designed to use large magazines.
             Whether shooters actually load up full magazines depends some times on what is actually happening at the range. If the range is crowded with shooters sighting-in their rifles before deer season, when most shooters fire three to five rounds, then check their targets to adjust their sights, firing off thirty rounds at once will raise some eyebrows, and might get you asked to leave & come back another day. In some competitive events, such as trapshooting with shotguns, you normally only load one round at a time, no
        matter how many your gun will hold.
             Was this what you were asking?

        -7.25, -6.26

        We are men of action; lies do not become us.

        by ER Doc on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 04:00:09 PM PDT

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    •  Sounds like a design flaw to me. (0+ / 0-)
      Standard capacity magazines don't fumble  in a gun. They insert slick as snot.
      And one for which the manufacturer should be held liable.
      •  Sue a manufacturer for a product that works (7+ / 0-)

        as designed?

        "Reduced capacity" magazines will have the same form factor as standard capacity ones. They will feed every bit as quickly and reliably.

        And a 10-round limit stopped or slowed down neither Cho nor Harris.

        You'd make a criminal offense of possession of an object, or sue lawful manufacturers into bankruptcy, based on ideology not facts. I fail how to see how this is any different from any other prohibitionist movement.

        Non enim propter gloriam, diuicias aut honores pugnamus set propter libertatem solummodo quam Nemo bonus nisi simul cum vita amittit. -Declaration of Arbroath

        by Robobagpiper on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 03:18:02 PM PDT

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      •  If you are trying to make a cogent point.... (0+ / 0-)

        you failed miserably.

        Your hate-mail will be graded.

        by PavePusher on Fri Apr 12, 2013 at 03:01:32 PM PDT

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