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  •  instead of analyzing the diarist's motives - (4+ / 0-)

    why not look at the issues he raises.  it's time for a dialogue - not a confrontation and fight - if we really want change to happen!  how about it?

    EdriesShop Is it kind? is it true? is it necessary?

    by edrie on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 12:39:37 PM PDT

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    •  this diarist shows no desire for a dialogue (0+ / 0-)

      I pointed out that being a member of the NRA did not comport with his positions. He called me Joe McCarthy (and doesn't appear to take the time to look at usernames to differentiate who he's even talking to).  

      Could someone argue that it's important for moderates to remain members of the NRA and fight to change it, so that it accurately represents its own members on reasonable gun laws? Yes, someone could make that argument and have a dialogue. But it's certainly not going to happen in here....

      I appreciate your efforts edrie.

      •  it can happen in here if we want it to.... (0+ / 0-)

        what i find that helps in furthering the dialogue is to leave out the personal.

        none of us really can ascribe motivation to another because we're not in their shoes... we can only come from our own perspectives.

        that is a good arguement about staying within the nra to change it - i often make a similar argument about the democratic party.

        it is only from within an organization that we can really hope to effect change.

        a prime example of his is citizenk's excellent catch about how the unions saved american airlines from being bain'd out of existence!  within - it works!  it's harder, but it is doable!

        perhaps more responsible gun owners are the answer to the insanity that is represented by this nra... i seem to remember it was a "hostile takeover" that drove responsible gunowners out of leadership.

        well, that works both ways!  numbers matter!

        EdriesShop Is it kind? is it true? is it necessary?

        by edrie on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 02:18:36 PM PDT

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      •  Is is not the case that the diarist shows (0+ / 0-)

        no desire for a dialogue. I concede that he isn't very good at it. We could enlarge this discussion to include facts, rather than trading insults.

        Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

        by Mokurai on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 04:17:31 PM PDT

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