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  •  Pres. Obama is Commander in Chief. (2+ / 0-)
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    He could order all American personnel at Gitmo redeployed tomorrow, instructing the last one to leave the keys in reach of the inmates.  

    When you triangulate everything, you can't even roll downhill...

    by PhilJD on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 03:45:24 PM PDT

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    •  that would mean absolutely nothing (0+ / 0-)

      because there's not the funds to do that and frankly while I don't agree with the abuses of GitMo many of those there are terrorists and leaving them to go free would be utterly reckless

      My point remains, GitMo is not Obama's fault

      In the time that I have been given,
      I am what I am

      by duhban on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 03:47:17 PM PDT

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      •  Wait, there aren't funds to move American armed (2+ / 0-)
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        elwior, lostinamerica

        forces around the globe? I bet there are.

        Probably some undetermined fraction of the Gitmo inmates are inveterate and dangerous enemies of America. My preference would be expedited trials of those we have actual, untainted evidence against. I'd release the rest and take my chances.

        If we aren't going to have trials though, the danger to this country is far greater if Gitmo continues to fester than if we simply release everyone there.

        and yes, it's fine if they move next door to me.

        I don't feel all that safe now anyway, in a nation where Dick Cheney and John Yoo are free to walk our streets.

        When you triangulate everything, you can't even roll downhill...

        by PhilJD on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 03:59:51 PM PDT

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        •  not going to continue this (0+ / 0-)

          here as while it is part of the diary it is a minor point

          I've made my point I am not going to repeat myself if you want to deny reality that's up to you

          In the time that I have been given,
          I am what I am

          by duhban on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 04:47:02 PM PDT

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      •  Huh? (1+ / 0-)
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        elwior

        I don't understand your point about terrorists. Particularly when many have had no trial. I appreciate your clarification that Congressional Dems should bear the brunt of the blame for GitMo, but I don't get your other point.

        •  last reply on this (0+ / 0-)

          because while the diarist did make this sort of about Gitmo this is starting to feel off topic

          I think everyone at GitMo should have their day at court but because many of them likely are terrorists I disagree with Phil's suggestion that we should just turn the keys over and walk away if we can not transfer them.

          To me that's at best reckless, at worst stupidly negliant. And if Congress refers to allow the prisoners to transfer out then GitMo unforunately has to stay open.

          In the time that I have been given,
          I am what I am

          by duhban on Thu Apr 11, 2013 at 04:50:09 PM PDT

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      •  Then perhaps he shouldn't have made the promise (3+ / 0-)
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        or should have prosecuted members of the Bush Administration for war crimes, or simply asked for a repeal of the Platt Amendment and gotten the US out of Cuba entirely.

        Not all the people in Guantanamo are terrorists - or at least, they weren't before Bush's thugs subjected them to a little "enhanced interrogation," then left them to rot through the four years of his successor's first term.

    •  Yes, but he couldn't close it. (0+ / 0-)

      Why don't you blame those who said no to Obama's call to close it? Why is that so hard?

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