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  •  What is it that seems to have upset you (0+ / 0-)

    about that old term used to describe government civil servants?

    •  Its use identifies you as a troll (1+ / 0-)
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      waztec

      Given that the dictionary definition is "A high government official", and the vanishingly small chance of any Kossack being in any "high government position", it makes it clear that you are a RWNJ troll we should properly ignore.

      Should have noticed that earlier.

      •  "high government official" ? (0+ / 0-)

        Where did you find THAT definition?  Got a reference?  I can show you that most dictionaries give, as definition 1, something different.  (See below.)

        It wasn't the perfect term in one sense, as the formal definition of "mandarin" does imply someone of middle (not high) rank, but in the vernacular of my readings and experience, it is almost exclusively a term used to describe the overall civil servant class that keeps the government and it's operations running. (As was the case in China.)

        mandarin
        1 a : a public official in the Chinese Empire of any of nine superior grades
           b : (1): a pedantic official (2) : bureaucrat

        From:
        http://www.merriam-webster.com/...

        (Nine grades? Sound like the Civil Service to you?)

        It is NOT a pejorative term. It was the Chinese civil service that made China a great empire at various points it her history, and it's stability that often prevented chaos.  But it DOES come with the negative baggage, which is what i WAS implying... the Mandarins were well compensated, even when the peasants suffered horribly.

        It wasn't a perfect analogy as to rank, there are Fed civil servants in blue collar jobs, but by and large it's a heavily white collar group.

        And why on earth would suggesting that a Kossack, or a whole slew of us, might be a "high government official" make me a troll anyway?  It might make me wrong, had that been what I had done (and I did not) but it hardly seems trollish.
         

    •  You do not upset me. . . (1+ / 0-)
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      rodentrancher

      . . .Because you do not know what you are talking about.

      Money ain't free speech and it won't buy you love.

      by waztec on Sun Apr 14, 2013 at 01:51:58 PM PDT

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