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  •  I notice you're not answering my questions. (1+ / 0-)
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    Sandino

    Is it in fact your position that an shrink who has direct reason to believe that a patient intends to shoot people, should refrain from reporting that because the client has not yet committed any crime?  If so, that's a pretty extreme position.  

    Maybe this particular case was a great big fuckup.  But what about IN GENERAL?  Is it a fuckup EVERY TIME the cops take a gun from someone on grounds of mental health?  

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Mon Apr 15, 2013 at 12:11:06 PM PDT

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    •  Hon, I'm not arguing against something that we've (4+ / 0-)
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      done for decades here, really.

      This is a red herring and a distraction, IMO.

      This wasn't a "fuckup", it was done intentionally.  Why, we do not know yet.

      Maybe a test case to see if they can get away with it.  See what the courts will ultimately decide.

      I'll repeat one last time, if you are a danger to yourself or others you can have your rights temporarily suspended, with a judge's order.

      -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

      by gerrilea on Mon Apr 15, 2013 at 12:31:16 PM PDT

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      •  Maybe (4+ / 0-)
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        His lawyer claims that, while the police say they made a mistake and notified the wrong guy. It might have been intentional but we don't know that yet. This is getting a bit CT.

        •  Agreed (4+ / 0-)

          While I don't automatically believe everything the cops say, neither do I automatically believe everything a plaintiff's lawyer may choose to say.  

          "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

          by lgmcp on Mon Apr 15, 2013 at 12:47:38 PM PDT

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        •  Agreed to a point, the documents shown so (4+ / 0-)
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          far is that they specifically went after this librarian.

          What isn't known is who were they actually looking for and what was the criteria used?  The attorney did say they were getting ready to file suit.

          And I have to believe him up to a point.  The "librarian" lives in one of our wealthy suburbs and if this attorney is lying, he'll lose a lot more than just customers.

          -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

          by gerrilea on Mon Apr 15, 2013 at 12:54:35 PM PDT

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      •  It doesn't matter (1+ / 0-)
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        It will all come out in discovery.  Just remember, email is forever.  Unless you are Mitt Romney.  And failing to maintain records by a records retention policy looks bad to the courts.  

        I used to work for a company that wanted to keep just about everything that would be useful for litigation and discovery for 37 years.  Given that the state police are regularly subject to litigation holds, I can't imagine that there isn't a nice email archive that contains just about everything interesting going back at least to the statue of limitations.  If there are lawyers who are more familiar please let me know, I could be mistaken.  

        My instinct, lifting this particular rock will display an interesting insect menagerie.  

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