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View Diary: Remembering the Medicare Catastrophic Coverage debacle: What happens when you piss off seniors (189 comments)

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  •  You have it backwards (3+ / 0-)
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    badger, JesseCW, Brown Thrasher

    Noting all of the other great responses to this bad idea, what you're suggesting -- cut their benefits because as a group, over-65s voted Republican -- creates a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    But the people approaching 65 are very different from the ones who were over 65 a dozen years ago.  Anybody remember the "generation gap"?  It's starting to hit Social Security.

    •  isn't that democracy? (0+ / 0-)

      Party in power pushes policy that benefits the coalition that elected them?

      I"m sorry, but if it wasn't for the over 65 vote we'd have a Democratic congress right now, and Obama would have won 40 states.  This notion that Obama should suddenly be scared of the senior vote because he proposed CPI is so patently absurd.  Romney proposed voucherizing Medicare and Grandma and Grandpa came out for him in droves.  

      •  It will be democracy when you lose the Senate (1+ / 0-)
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        You don't have a very good handle on the demographics in states like Iowa.  It's one thing to for Steve king to win a congressional district.  You are going to wind up electing him to the Senate.

      •  Wrong seniors (3+ / 0-)
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        JesseCW, greenbell, mmacdDE

        Chained CPI impacts today's 60-65 group a lot more than it impacts today's 70-80 group, since more of the latter frankly will be dying off before Chained CPI's major cuts kick in.  Plus a lot of the over-70s have private pensions, as they were in the workforce back when that was common.

        The real losers in Chained CPI are the under-65s who have little but Social Security to retire on.  They've exhausted their resources educating their kids and paying for health care, and probably don't have a big 401K.  Few private-sector employees today have defined-benefit pensions.

        So the older generation (over 70) responds to the social wedge issues, just as they did in the sixties when they were the "over 30s".  And the younger generation (boomers) thinks more about their own economic issues. Obama's giving a kick in the rear to the latter.

      •  The Party in power is supposed to push the (1+ / 0-)
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        policies supported by the people who elected them.

        Statistically, almost no one of any party supports this scheme to fuck over seniors and the disabled.

        dEar Ellois: U send Fud down holez, we no eaTz u. That iz deAl. No forget. MooRlockz Haz 2 eats. Stoopid Elloiz.

        by JesseCW on Sun Apr 14, 2013 at 12:08:29 PM PDT

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