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  •  I would also point out that Bonobos do (0+ / 0-)

    have a readily apparent social structure with hierarchy and power relationships built in, doubtless for evolutionary reasons, and driven by brain chemistry. This from Wikipedia:

    The bonobo is popularly known for its high levels of sexual behavior. Sex functions in conflict appeasement, affection, social status, excitement, and stress reduction. It occurs in virtually all partner combinations and in a variety of positions. This is a factor in the lower levels of aggression seen in the bonobo when compared to the common chimpanzee and other apes. Bonobos are perceived to be matriarchal; females tend to collectively dominate males by forming alliances and use sexuality to control males[citation needed]. A male's rank in the social hierarchy is often determined by his mother's rank.

    For if there is a sin against life, it consists perhaps not so much in despairing of life as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this life. - Albert Camus

    by Anne Elk on Sat Apr 13, 2013 at 01:37:28 PM PDT

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    •  Now you're just all over the place. (0+ / 0-)

      In chimpanzee societies there's a dominant male around which the other males congregate and there's strict segregation between males and females.  The evolutionary sociologists use this as the model of what they're talking about when they talk about hierarchy.  In bonobos you just don't find that sort of segregation nor hierarchy organized around a single figure.  Are there power relationships?  Sure, there are power relationships in any society.  Is there the sort of hierarchy described by evolutionary sociologists in every society?  Absolutely not.  Sadly, I'm unable to show this to you because, for bizarre reasons, you refuse to acknowledge what ethnographers have observed in countless different societies, instead embracing a theory without empirical confirmation in much the same way that advocates of Chicago School economics continue to insist on the truth of their economic theory despite the fact that we observe again and again that unregulated markets do not behave in the way they predict.

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