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    PSzymeczek, blueoasis

    NYC used to test very young kids--kindergarten and first grade--often making the little ones cry in frustration.  In essence, over testing is a form of child abuse.

    Apres Bush, le deluge.

    by melvynny on Sat Apr 13, 2013 at 12:26:08 PM PDT

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    •  there are a variety of tests used for young kids (2+ / 0-)
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      melvynny, oceanview

      the problem is they are not all that reliable at that age, hence they do not carry that much validity.

      Further, much of what we do in testing presumes everyone developing across multiple domains at the same rate.  Some develop at different rates in different domains.

      Some just are slower or quicker.

      In a sense, all tests with stakes involved are a form of abuse

      what would be better is that there are only two measures

      - meets standards

      - yet to meet standards, in which case we keep at it until one does.

      no rank ordering

      no "failures"

      "We didn't set out to save the world; we set out to wonder how other people are doing and to reflect on how our actions affect other people's hearts." - Pema Chodron

      by teacherken on Sat Apr 13, 2013 at 12:42:49 PM PDT

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      •  I don't know, I seldom (0+ / 0-)

        disagree with Teacher Ken (he's one of my favorite writers on Daily Kos), but I don't know that all high-stakes testing is abuse (which is not to say it's a great idea, just not necessarily abuse).  I think that high-stakes testing of very young children would qualify as abuse, and I agree that because of Bush's stupid school "reforms," school systems now overdo it.  

        "Optimism is better than despair." --Jack Layton, the late Canadian MP, liberal, and Christian.

        by lungfish on Sun Apr 14, 2013 at 05:00:36 AM PDT

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