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  •  I drew a map of NJ (1+ / 0-)
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    that in my opinion is a nonpartisan, CoI map.

    District 1 was all of Cape May, Atlantic, Cumberland, and Salem, and part of Gloucester (Monroe, Glassboro, Paulsboro).

    District 2 was the remainder of Gloucester, all of Camden, and Evesham, Maple Shade, and Palmyra in Burlington.

    District 3 was the remainder of Burlington (with the exception of a few small Pine Barrens townships), and all of Mercer.

    District 4 was all of Ocean, those few small Pine Barrens townships from Burlington, and Howell, Wall, and Freehold in Monmouth.

    District 5 was the rest of Monmouth, and Old Bridge, Monroe, Sayreville, and East Brunswick in Middlesex.

    District 6 was the remainder of Middlesex and the southern half of Somerset.

    District 7 was the black district: AA parts of Newark, the Oranges, Union Twp, Linden, Rahway, and parts of Jersey City.

    District 8 was the Hispanic district: North Newark, the remainder of Hudson, and Elizabeth.

    District 9 is probably the least cohesive district in my map. It includes the remainder of Union, the remainder of Essex, Clifton, Passaic, and South Bergen. I had to draw it because I wanted districts 10 and 11 to be mostly working-class and mostly middle-to-upper class respectively (which they are), and I wanted district 12 to be outer suburban and rural (which it is).

    District 10 is central Bergen plus Paterson. It's basically the areas of Bergen that swung toward Obama last year, since that swing is a good measure of socioeconomic status in North Jersey.

    District 11 includes North Bergen, the rest of Passaic, and East Morris. These areas are largely middle-to-upper class areas, and so swung away from Obama last year.

    District 12 is Hunterdon, Warren, Sussex, North Somerset, and West Morris. I believe that this district is a distinct community of interest (unfortunately, it's a strongly Republican one).

    I think my splits of Bergen and Union Counties make more sense than yours, and I'm wondering why you didn't split Passaic when Paterson is nothing like the NW part of the county.

    What do you think of my idea?

    (-8.38, -4.72), CT-02 (home), ME-01 (college) "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one." -Spock

    by ProudNewEnglander on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 02:34:13 PM PDT

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    •  Can you post a map of it? (0+ / 0-)

      Don't bother with the Obama numbers as they aren't accurate. I actually had to deal with precinct data to produce a usable data set for the state. I think roguemapper was eventually going to correct it, but there are tons of votes missing left and right in the state and it is not at all evenly distributed.

      •  Yeah I know (0+ / 0-)

        just how messed up the election data is in NJ, and it's not just one area. Lakewood, Trenton, Newark, Jersey City, Elizabeth, Salem, and others are all messed up.

        Unfortunately, I don't know how to post a map in a comment. In my diaries, I've always used the handy picture tool that DK has, but I can't do that in a comment.

        If I have time, I'll post a diary with my proposals for nonpartisan, CoI-based maps. It won't be as big as yours because many of your maps I agree with completely. However, this is a very busy week for me, and I'm not sure I'll have time until next week.

        (-8.38, -4.72), CT-02 (home), ME-01 (college) "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one." -Spock

        by ProudNewEnglander on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 03:33:38 PM PDT

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        •  You could upload the drf to gdocs or something (1+ / 0-)
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          Otherwise you have to use a 3rd party host to post pictures in comments.

          I'd definitely enjoy seeing a diary of your own though.

          •  So I've come to the conclusion (1+ / 0-)
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            that the states in which I feel that I could improve the most on these maps are MA, NJ, and PA.

            Since those are only three states, the diary would be of a manageable size, and it wouldn't take too long to write.

            I'll try to get my diary up as soon as I have any free time.

            As for the rest of your maps, either I agree with them completely or any differences that I would make are minor enough that it wouldn't be worth drawing a whole new map.

            (-8.38, -4.72), CT-02 (home), ME-01 (college) "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one." -Spock

            by ProudNewEnglander on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 03:49:57 PM PDT

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            •  I did actually post my NJ alternatives before (0+ / 0-)

              I'm guessing your map is closer to my second or third one, but really the south Jersey districts had at least one district combine disparate communities of interest when I tried drawing them.

              •  My districts 1 and 2 (0+ / 0-)

                are closest to your first map, but my district 3 is closest to your third map (just imagine district 3 containing all of Mercer County).

                My district 4 contains all of Ocean County, and... etc.

                I know that the saying is that a picture is worth a thousand words. That seems particularly true in this case. I'll try to get my diary up.

                (-8.38, -4.72), CT-02 (home), ME-01 (college) "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one." -Spock

                by ProudNewEnglander on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 06:32:08 PM PDT

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