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  •  Organic farming prohibits (2+ / 0-)
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    beach babe in fl, allergywoman

    using animal fertilizer. For me, it's one of the main reasons I buy organic produce. I eat most of my produce raw.

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    by rb137 on Sun Apr 14, 2013 at 10:00:35 AM PDT

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    •  i buy organic also as i like to avoid... (2+ / 0-)
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      SoCaliana, rb137

      pesticides sprayed on produce. I do think it's important to wash all produce carefully.

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      by VL Baker on Sun Apr 14, 2013 at 10:15:49 AM PDT

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    •  slight correction (1+ / 0-)
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      skohayes

      organic farming does allow using animal manures, that is one of the cornerstones of organic growing. However in its purest form it would not allow manure from animals that had been treated with chemicals. So, organically-raised livestock could provide manure for an organic farm or garden.

      I don't eat meat, nor do I raise any livestock. However on occasion I have brought in horse manure for my large organic garden.

      In general, even if you buy organic produce, you have to wash it well and you need to pay attention to your sources.

      •  slight correction (0+ / 0-)

        Organic farmers are prohibited from using raw manure no less than 90 days prior to the harvest of a crop for human consumption.

        They don't process vegetables in the field with fresh manure -- which is what causes the food-borne illness problem.

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        by rb137 on Sun Apr 14, 2013 at 11:19:36 AM PDT

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        •  Well, sure (1+ / 0-)
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          skohayes

          that's just a management issue--raw manure has a lot of problems anyway for the grower and typically it's composted first before use. Applying raw manure to a field would be something best done in the off-season or fallow times, not onto growing crops--I mean, for horticultural reasons not only for sanitation reasons. You can actually kill plants with it.

          This guideline (the 90 days rule) is a good one, one which a responsible grower would follow anyway.

          I thought you were saying that organic growers may not use manure at all, which isn't the case, naturally. And if the manure is contaminated 90 days won't guarantee healthy produce. Toxic metals, for instance, don't degrade or leach away that quickly. It's very important that we buy vegetables from growers who use organic inputs only, including manure from organically raised livestock.

          •  Lettuce and baby spinach take less (1+ / 0-)
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            sillia

            than 90 days to mature. Many crops do. But I think we're really on the same page here. I agree with you strongly about everything you're saying.

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            by rb137 on Sun Apr 14, 2013 at 12:23:21 PM PDT

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