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  •  Those are Tier 1 small schools (0+ / 0-)

    The liberal arts colleges you named are about as hard as the Ivies to get into, and win the same respect.  Amherst is kind of proud that for its applicants, Harvard is a safety school.

    I'll also second Outside's recommendation for the schools in Pope's CTCL group.  They aren't the Tier 1 famous schools, but they're very good, and mostly very respectable Tier 2s -- unless you want to be a white-shoe i-banker, their degrees are well regarded.

    •  Small doesn't necessarily mean good (0+ / 0-)

      In most cases, a person will get a great education at a flagship state university for not that much money. I wish there were more public SLACs.

      But most SLACs are like most universities-- a few very good ones. Very many extremely expensive ones that don't deliver a quality education. And sometimes even worse tend to prey on first generation college students by promising a "life changing" intellectual experience that leaves them in debt and with poor job prospects, because they are designed for students that are already well-connected and savvy enough to be career focused and find a good job after graduation.

      I tend to think that SLACs are over-rated in the public imagination. Certainly there are many good ones, just like there are many good research universities. But small colleges tend to over-promise: their rate of delivering quality (especially for the money) isn't that much better than larger universities though certainly many students are going to thrive in a small environment where they need more hands-on mentoring whereas they might have gotten lost at even a medium-sized university.

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