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  •  Except Franken is not tied to this at all. (4+ / 0-)
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    and he's doing pretty good

    "It is the stillest words that bring on the storm. Thoughts that come on doves' feet guide the world." -Nietzche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra

    by KingofSpades on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 09:06:01 AM PDT

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    •  There Is a Long Line of Politicians..... (2+ / 0-)
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      ......who weren't directly responsible for the wave election that befell their states but nonetheless got swept away.  Phil Hare, Russ Feingold, and Mike DeWine are just the first three that come to mind.

      •  The problem is (1+ / 0-)
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        that will people want to go back to the even worse times of the MN GOP?  it's recent memory

        And Franken is pretty popular.

        "It is the stillest words that bring on the storm. Thoughts that come on doves' feet guide the world." -Nietzche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra

        by KingofSpades on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 09:11:15 AM PDT

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        •  Also I doubt (3+ / 0-)
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          there will be a GOP wave in 2014.

          "It is the stillest words that bring on the storm. Thoughts that come on doves' feet guide the world." -Nietzche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra

          by KingofSpades on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 09:12:19 AM PDT

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          •  Correct, a GOP wave is near-impossible because... (2+ / 0-)
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            ...there is now a GOP House that prevents anything from happening that any voters could perceive as Democratic overreach.

            On top of that, the GOP House reminds voters they hate Republicans, which they easily shelved as a concern during the one-party rule of Obama's first two years.

            And state-level waves are rare, although not unheard of.  We can have them in Virginia because state and local elections are staggered in odd-numbered years, opposite the federal cycles.  It's much harder for state-level waves in states that have their state elections in federal years.  But it's certainly not impossible.

            45, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and 2 boys, Democrat, VA-10

            by DCCyclone on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 05:59:38 PM PDT

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      •  Feingold was always vulnerable... (6+ / 0-)

        Wave or no, his posturing on money has always left him vulnerable.

        As for DeWine, I don't think the DFL right now is even remotely comparable to how big a mess the Ohio GOP was in 2005-2006 (then-Governor Taft had huge corruption issues, which permeated the entire GOP, and caused problems for all politicians, even relatively clean members like DeWine, who was also running in a national Dem wave, and whatever 2014 is going to be like, it's really doubtful it will be anything close to as good for the Republicans as 2006 was for the Democrats).

        If Franken goes down, then we have much, much worse problems nationally (and given that the Republicans can't seem to get anyone of any note to run against him, I'm not entirely sure what kind of wave would be required to take him down, given that he seems reasonably popular in his own right).

        Politics and more Formerly DGM on SSP. NM-01, 26 (chairman of the Atheist Caucus)

        by NMLib on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 11:49:13 AM PDT

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        •  DeWine also faced (5+ / 0-)

          Sherrod Brown of all people. And made numerous unforced erros that backfired on him during the campaign. Like the whole "attack ad depicting the Twin Towers getting struck by the planes" thing.

          "Once, many, many years ago I thought I was wrong. Of course it turned out I had been right all along. But I was wrong to have thought I was wrong." -John Foster Dulles. My Political Compass Score: -4.00, -3.69, Proud member of DKE

          by ArkDem14 on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 12:09:06 PM PDT

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