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  •  The injection of religion into politics... (3+ / 0-)
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    ArkDem14, lordpet8, pademocrat

    As a mainstream practice seems to be one of those American traditions that developed sometime after independence -- considering our first 10 presidents were not particularly devout -- and has not, as it has in most other modern democracies, simply gone away.

    Even Australia, which competes with the United States for having the most rightward political centerpoint among modern democracies, has an openly atheist prime minister. Even some Latin American countries, in a region where Catholicism is prominent, have political spheres blissfully devoid of overt religious influence (Uruguay and Argentina come to mind). Just to our north (or my east, actually), in Canada, Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper rose to power in part by criticizing Stockwell Day for attempting to bring religious conservatism into politics.

    The U.S. is just this weird anomalous place where for some reason it's okay to legislate based on religious beliefs rather than on what is empirically best for the people.

    •  Australia's labor party is (2+ / 0-)
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      nimh, DCCyclone

      pretty well to the left though. Australia is way to our left on most economic issues, particularly those pertaining to unions and the minimum wage, and financial regulation.

      "Once, many, many years ago I thought I was wrong. Of course it turned out I had been right all along. But I was wrong to have thought I was wrong." -John Foster Dulles. My Political Compass Score: -4.00, -3.69, Proud member of DKE

      by ArkDem14 on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 12:11:28 PM PDT

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      •  Way way to the left. (3+ / 0-)
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        lordpet8, ArkDem14, DCCyclone

        Like on healthcare, Medicare, guns etc.

        I hated John Howard with a passion because he was a right wing zealot but he banned semi autos after the port Arthur massacre and introduced stringent gun laws.

        Religion does have some influence but nothing like USA... The conservatives would never be in power in Aus without the moderate wing.

        Town Planner, 30 years Old, Election Junkie, "If you agree with Bush's economic policy, Cheney's foreign policy, and Santorum's social policy, you loved Romney's speech" - James Carville (aka the Ragin Cajun) on the Colbert Report

        by CF of Aus on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 01:14:38 PM PDT

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    •  Israel is worse. (1+ / 0-)
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      ArkDem14

      20, CA-18 (home), CA-13 (school)
      politicohen.com
      Socially libertarian, moderate on foreign policy, immigration, and crime, liberal on everything else.
      UC Berkeley; I think I'm in the conservative half of this city. -.4.12, -4.92

      by jncca on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 03:25:28 PM PDT

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      •  Well that's not really a fair example (2+ / 0-)
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        JBraden, NMLib

        It was founded as a Jewish state and still is more secular than the Christian right nuts want America to be!  Muslims can vote there, American conservatives are still unhappy black Americans, even Christians, can vote here.

        45, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and 2 boys, Democrat, VA-10

        by DCCyclone on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 06:06:36 PM PDT

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        •  Well yeah, religion is intended to be prominent (0+ / 0-)

          in Israel.  But I was just pointing it out as more right-wing than us.

          20, CA-18 (home), CA-13 (school)
          politicohen.com
          Socially libertarian, moderate on foreign policy, immigration, and crime, liberal on everything else.
          UC Berkeley; I think I'm in the conservative half of this city. -.4.12, -4.92

          by jncca on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 11:45:18 PM PDT

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