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  •  Jaime becomes more human in the future (12+ / 0-)

    He and Tyrion are, by far, the best developed characters in the novels.  They are better handled than even John Snow or Dani.

    The only thing that may rise to it is Arya, but I think the bulk of that story has yet to be written.

    ...although personally, I was always fascinated by Damphair as well.  

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    by Wisper on Mon Apr 15, 2013 at 05:36:40 AM PDT

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    •  Avast ye... (7+ / 0-)

      Though I've already tread some thin ground in the write up, I'd ask that you be careful of anything that smacks of spoiler. Thanks.

    •  Jamie is my favorite character (5+ / 0-)
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      The thing is, he really is a "true knight".  As far as I remember, he never lies.  He's a great swordsman.  His sister Cersei is the only woman he's ever loved or been with.  Despite being on the wrong side of the war, and mistreated by his own family, he remains loyal to them.   In fact, while he's mocked as the "kingslayer", his real crime is that he stood by his pledge of loyalty to the king for too long.  Had he taken his oath less seriously, he'd have been as highly regarded as Robert or Ned, who betrayed their king without regret

      For me, Jamie's relationship with Breanne is the highlight of the books.  They're really very much alike, and are each reviled by fools, sycophants and degenerates.

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      by sneakers563 on Mon Apr 15, 2013 at 08:08:16 PM PDT

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      •  He's also a good big brother. He actually likes (3+ / 0-)
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        Tyrion. Unlike Cersei & Tywin.

        There's a scene in the books where Jamie is riding & he thinks to himself how he wished Tyrion were there, since Tyrion could always make the trip fun with some jokes. Or at least make it interesting, what with Tyrion's knowledge and mastery of factoids.

        And for Tyrion's part, there's a scene in the books where he thinks very fondly of Jamie & appreciates all the times he stuck up for him.

        Of course I could reveal more about the relationship, but I'm not posting spoilers

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        by METAL TREK on Mon Apr 15, 2013 at 08:39:14 PM PDT

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      •  There's a lot more (1+ / 0-)
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        to Jaime Lannister than meets the eye.

         He actually does have his own code of honor---and---in his own way--- he IS faithful to that code.

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        by lyvwyr101 on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 05:48:22 AM PDT

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        •  Exactly (1+ / 0-)
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          There's so many characters in those books who bemoan that there are "no true knights".  Yet when they're actually confronted by two people in Jamie and Breanne, who, for better or worse embody that ideal, they regard them with suspicion and distaste.  Jamie is mocked and hated, while Breanne is regarded as some kind of freak.

          The best thing about Martin in that he really does write quite complex characters with rich internal lives. Even the real villains like Cersei have motivations that are comprehensible.  They're not just evil.

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          by sneakers563 on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 08:10:29 AM PDT

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      •  Jamie may never lie, but he dissembles ALL the... (0+ / 0-)

        ... time.

        No spoiler in that!

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        by TRPChicago on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 04:49:32 PM PDT

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    •  I think he feels a connection to Brienne (3+ / 0-)
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      Jaime respects one thing: fighters.  You see it in the way he talks about watching Barristan Selmy "paint in red" last season.  He finds her odd sense of nobility and honor both naive and endearing.

      I think he also sees her as a kindred spirit in that they are both sort of outcasts and not really accepted.  He will always be the Kingslayer...and she will be a woman in armor.  Tolerated but not respected.  

      The book has time to develop the relationship over more time.  I do think the show did a good job communicating this relationship given the restraints of the television medium.

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      by Mote Dai on Mon Apr 15, 2013 at 10:53:51 PM PDT

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