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  •  I've been considering (2+ / 0-)
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    the bombings in Boston, and my mind has tried to make comparisons with past similar events of greater or lesser impact.  I might ramble while assembling my thoughts, and if so, chalk it up to an old fellow whose last few marbles long ago rolled under the sofa.

    In the 60s and early to mid 70s in the U.S., it was often safe to assume acts of terror within the U.S. were the work of extreme leftist organizations (Weather Underground, Black Panthers, et cetera).  We could add the Muslim hijackings of that period as a mere sideshow.

    In Israel, where I have spent a great part of my adult life, and part of my childhood prior to nationhood, it has always been, and is to this day, safe to assume terror attacks against Jews and Christians are the work of Muslim extremists.  Nothing changes that -- facts are facts.  My children and grandchildren grew up seeing school friends mangled and/or killed because Jews weren't (and still aren't) wanted in Jerusalem.  It's particularly sad because there are many, many Muslims and Arabs who live happily and freely in Israel, and who are there because they are freer in Israel than they would be anywhere else in the Middle East -- some of them are dear friends of many years.  The extremists who purposefully kill children do not represent all Muslims.

    In the U.S. (and among U.S. allies) in the two decades prior to 9/11, attacks were mostly Muslim extremists, with exceptions like McVeigh, and of course the loony Unabomber and a few notable fringe white supremacists and their cousins, including the abortion center bombers and shooters.  Those years were also the nursery years for environmental terrorism, particularly on the West Coast.

    Since 9/11, most of the failed attacks on U.S. soil (or overhead) have been carried out by people attached to or influenced by Muslim extremist groups.  The same is true of almost all of the terror attacks on our allies (the Norway shooting being an obvious exception).

    Although there are plenty of non-Muslim groups and individuals who commit acts of terror, Muslim extremism by far is the most common link between terrorist acts here and across the planet -- the damned extremists even spend a lot of time engineering the deaths of their fellow Muslims.  The underlying reasons are complex, and date back to the breakup of the Ottoman Empire (and the ideological reasons for Muslim terrorism predate that empire).  I've thought about this for years -- not that my brain is all that efficient -- and can not see any easy solutions for the West.  I can't even see any difficult actions that are likely to produce good results.

    The likelihood is that the bombings today in Boston are the acts of a radical Islamic group of individual.  I could be wrong, and certainly have been often enough.  It could be, as some have suggested, the work of anti-IRS loonies, or of a white supremacist group who wants to "show" the guy from Chicago what for, or any number of other possibilities.  Hell, it could even be the big attack North Korea has been warning us about.  The likelihood, though, based solely on the numbers, is extremist Muslim(s).  We will learn the truth sooner or later -- sooner being better, because whoever did this to innocent civilians needs to be brought to justice, whether that justice is through our courts, or summary as in the case of bin Laden.  

    Regardless of who the perpetrator(s), I pray for those injured, and for their families and friends, and pray, too, that this in an isolated incident, and that some good comes from evil, perhaps a softening of the divisions between us as fellow citizens, and an increase of good will towards one another.  

    A wise man hears one word and understands two.

    by Not A Bot on Mon Apr 15, 2013 at 10:34:50 PM PDT

    •  It is not being mentioned the bombing was in (2+ / 0-)
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      Boston (tea party) on tax day which happened to be the 3rd Monday in April, or Patriot Day. The day of the Boston Marathon.

      I think it could be anybody.

      I am glad the bomb under the bleachers didn't go off.

      guns are fun v. hey buddy, watch what you are doing -- which side are you on?

      by 88kathy on Mon Apr 15, 2013 at 11:26:27 PM PDT

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    •  I fervently hope Islam isnt a factor (1+ / 0-)
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      I am so tired of war and Moozlimophobia. But would i rather it be our right wing? My god what a terrible thought.

      Fight them to the end, until the children of the poor eat better than the dogs of the rich.

      by raincrow on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 12:41:59 AM PDT

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      •  Yes, I'd rather it not be homegrown, (1+ / 0-)
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        whether rightwing or left.  Of course, I'd rather it not have happened at all.  But it originated somewhere, and I fervently hope that somewhere is not here -- G-d knows we don't need any more reasons for division amongst ourselves.

        A wise man hears one word and understands two.

        by Not A Bot on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 03:12:24 PM PDT

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