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  •  Considering the reports pointing to intentional (25+ / 0-)

    shrapnel that was relatively small (i.e., ball bearings), it strikes me that the perpetrators were attempting to cause as much suffering across a wide swath as possible, rather than target out-and-out deaths.

    So, that guess easily lends to a further assumption that this was highly planned - i.e., the perpetrators knew what they were doing and they were either sending a sociopolitical message and/or trying to hurt as many people as possible for whatever inhumane reason one can imagine.

    The more I read on the victims, the more heartbroken it makes me feel for them and their loved ones.  And, the poor children . . .

    Yes, I also feel deepening anger about the perpetrators, but I don't support the death penalty.  So, I currently feel that their punishments should be long, lonely, physically demanding and without easy joy.  Maybe that opinion will change as more information comes forth, but I doubt it will become more lenient.

    "So, please stay where you are. Don't move and don't panic. Don't take off your shoes! Jobs is on the way."

    by wader on Mon Apr 15, 2013 at 07:40:16 PM PDT

    •  Two devices planted and detonated simultaneously (12+ / 0-)

      is a hallmark of experience.

      I'm living in America, and in America you're on your own. America's not a country. It's just a business.

      by CFAmick on Mon Apr 15, 2013 at 08:20:27 PM PDT

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      •  But Experience Can Be Downloaded. (8+ / 0-)

        So it isn't necessarily experience of the actual perp.

        We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

        by Gooserock on Mon Apr 15, 2013 at 08:37:29 PM PDT

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      •  Don't buy it (2+ / 0-)
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        They may be "experienced", but nothing about this screams any particular level of expertise.  The two devices detonated about 10-15 seconds apart, hardly simultaneous.  Some reports say several unexploded devices were recovered, which indicates a certain lack of skill if true.

        News has said no high-grade explosives have been found.  It's possible this was either made from off the shelf components or was a home-made bomb.    It's certain the perpetrators were sick bastiches, but I am not about to put them in the evil genius category.

        •  The delay (4+ / 0-)

          is a known tactic to maximize carnage by hitting first responders to the initial blast.

          "Let’s just move on, treat everybody with firmness, fairness, dignity, compassion and respect. Let’s be Marines." - Sgt. Maj Michael Barrett on DADT repeal

          by kyril on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 01:54:27 AM PDT

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          •  Yes, if you're talking MINUTES (1+ / 0-)
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            If the second bomb went off 5 minutes after the first, then yes I buy it as a calculated plot.  15 seconds later?  It's 50-50 whether the delay was intentional, to mow down people fleeing the first scene, or unplanned.

        •  You son't have to be an evil genius (0+ / 0-)

          to have failure rates in this type of thing. Bombs fail to go off all the time, even ones made by experts. There's other factors involved. The triggers could have been cell phone related and a spike in data and traffic could have blocked the signal. Or in haste to place the devices in trash cans something could have been knocked loose. If other means of a trigger like visual then it could have been obstructed by fleeing crowds or something, maybe they were spotted. The more sophisticated the device the greater chance at failure for a variety of factors.

          But, placing these devices in a crowed area with tons of security shows to me they have at least done test runs but more likely have done it before. I would assume the trash in those cans was emptied that morning or the night before the race where some security or authority figure was probably present. I would even make a guess the person was a volunteer or imitated someone would would have access to that area. If not, it definitely meas they have experience to have the gall to place those devices while in a crowd. Just like serial killers get bolder and bolder with more kills they rack up. The person/s who did this planned this for a long time and knew what they were doing and had intimate knowledge of the area and race procedures.

    •  Yes. Agree with all that you have said, wader. (13+ / 0-)

      And wish to reinforce this point: We cannot respond to an immoral, inhumane crime with an immoral, inhumane punishment. The death penalty is wrong in all circumstances, even one as heinous as this. Life sentences for all involved, once found and convicted. In our soulless, bleak American prisons, surely the perpetrators will have plenty of time to contemplate the error of their ways.

      Prayers for the dead and the wounded, and for all the heroic bystanders and first responders.

      Ho'oponopono. To make things right; restore harmony; heal.

      by earicicle on Mon Apr 15, 2013 at 09:18:14 PM PDT

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