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  •  But! (0+ / 0-)

    anybody who breaks the law and sells without a background check, is also going to break the other law and sell without keeping a record.

    Trying to catch them after the fact and prove that their guns weren't really stolen after all is going to be much harder and less effective than catching the illegal dealers in the act.

    "with rights come responsibilities." Wrong. Responsibilities continue to exist even if you abdicate your rights.

    by happymisanthropy on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 09:59:58 AM PDT

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    •  Nope. (0+ / 0-)

      Really, the easiest thing is to take the papertrail of weapons that a person is suppose to have, and then compare that with the weapons he does have or can account for with background checks.

      That's not even "gun control". It's more like "massacre control".

      by Inland on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 12:40:10 PM PDT

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      •  and how is that (1+ / 0-)
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        less difficult than walking into a gun show and arresting two or three of the dozens of people I'm told are illegally dealing in weapons there on any given day?

        "with rights come responsibilities." Wrong. Responsibilities continue to exist even if you abdicate your rights.

        by happymisanthropy on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 12:44:43 PM PDT

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        •  That's what I've described. (0+ / 0-)

          Someone tells you "A didn't require a background check when he sold me the gun I was using", and you go compare the paper trail, sometimes days later.

          Otherwise, law enforcement has to correctly choose the given day and actually send an uncover agent and see if A will sell a gun without a check, hoping he doesn't smell anything wrong.

          That's not even "gun control". It's more like "massacre control".

          by Inland on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 12:51:58 PM PDT

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