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  •  mental health (5+ / 0-)

    No one now knows who is responsible--but that doesn't mean we shouldn't treat some who might do such things.  Many mental health facilities have been closed, troubled, yet intelligent people are wandering around because state's decided to save money before saving lives.  These people will do psychotic acts because they are psychotic.  Those responsible for releasing these people from care deserve the consequences--which never seems to happen.

    Apres Bush, le deluge.

    by melvynny on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 06:51:20 AM PDT

    •  Do you just dislike the mentally ill, (1+ / 0-)
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      or do you have an agenda?

      I'm gonna quote you

      No one now knows who is responsible
      ...and yet it clearly has to do with somebody who's ill.

      Couldn't be a political motivation.
      Obviously the act of a psychotic.

      Despite the assumption of everybody who seems to actually, ya know, KNOW anything that this was a politically motivated act of terror.

      •  opportunity (1+ / 0-)
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        We should never forget--or target--or accuse the mentally ill.  We should remember, target, and accuse, those who decided not to treat them.  This is an opportune time to bring up this discussion--just as Newtown brought up gun control--even though the biggest issue should be hand guns.

        Apres Bush, le deluge.

        by melvynny on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 07:32:15 AM PDT

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        •  No, this is not an opportune time (4+ / 0-)
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          If it turns out this really is the work of someone with a history of mental illness who has been unable to receive treatment, or been denied that treatment, or whatever, then -- then -- it will be an opportune time to discuss the importance of improved mental health care as a path to reducing violence. Because, sadly, we don't have national conversations about difficult topics until that difficulty is stained with blood.

          But we don't know that.

          This could be the result of mental illness.
          It could be a tax protest.
          It could be a strike against multiculturalism.
          It could be an attack on Boston because it's a "liberal" city.
          It could have been targeted at a specific individual.
          It could have been done in cooperation with foreign agents.
          It could be related to Waco or OKC.
          It could be related to white supremacy.

          It could be a thousand, thousand things, and we don't know which one it is. So it's not an opportune time to make mental illness the topic of the discussion, irrespective of whether you're trying to persecute or assist those in need of psychiatric care.

          It is an opportune time to grieve and to wait until we know more.

          "All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others." -Douglas Adams

          by Serpents Choice on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 07:47:44 AM PDT

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        •  Anyone who commits violence is mentally-ill, imho. (1+ / 0-)
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          There are various kinds of mental illness -- schizophrenia among the most severe, and quite different from depression.

          "Self-interest well-understood" would prevent anyone from committing atrocities. Timothy McVeigh was mentally ill. OBL was mentally ill. Eric Rudolph (Atlanta Olympics) is or was mentally ill. Serial killers are mentally ill.

          These people may not meet the legal definitions or circumstances for pleas of 'innocent by reason of insanity,' but those are different questions.

          Perhaps I'm missing some obvious point, or perhaps it's too broad an umbrella term to be useful.

    •  That started w/Rayguns when his (1+ / 0-)
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      goon squad shut down public mental institutions. Har-har, the POS croaked from Alzheimers.

      Some people make u want to change species! --ulookarmless, quoted w/his permission: RIP good man.

      by orlbucfan on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 09:57:59 AM PDT

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