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  •  Will $100K afford "basic comfort"? (0+ / 0-)

    _"Love is the rosebud of an hour; Friendship the everlasting flower."_ Brook Boothby

    by Keith930 on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 08:24:38 AM PDT

    •  I have a hard time (3+ / 0-)
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      when people bad mouth first responders retirement pay.

      First of all, it is decided by negotiation, not by fiat of the employees. Get involved in the process if you want to drive out qualified employees by shorting them on their retirement, not cry after the fact.

      Secondly--do people shoot at you while you do your job? People do shoot at ambulances & Paramedics. When you come into work in the morning, and your ambulance has new bullet holes and you learn the person you turned the vehicle over to the night before had surgery to remove a bullet from them, well, suffice to say you may reconsider your career choice... Are you exposed to contagious diseases as a matter of course in your job? I was a Paramedic in San Francisco when it was unknown how AIDS was spread. I went to work not knowing if I woud die very young because I developed AIDS because of my job. Is it the same for you? Do you routinely get physically attacked on your job? I did many times, and so did every Paramedic I know. Have you had surgeries because of crap other people did to you at your job? PLENTY of Paramedics I know had neck surgery, back surgery, knee surgery, high BP, lung problems from crap they inhaled on the job...Do you risk your health daily at your job? Is your lifespan shortened because of your job?

      And for what it is worth, my retirement pay is NO WHERE CLOSE to $100k/year. OR $90k. Or $75k, or even $60k.

      You get what you pay for. If you want some yokel who is in over their head, by all means pay them $18k/yr and let them live on SS after they can barely function because they can no longer lift more than 20lbs. But if you want the best and the brightest, the most physically fit, the most compassionate, the caring, the calm in the face of their own death--well, that is gonna cost you more.

      The better I know people, the more I like my dog.

      by Thinking Fella on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 08:50:46 AM PDT

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    •  And this has to do with what regarding yesterday? (3+ / 0-)
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      In case you hadn't noticed, Boston isn't in California, New York, or New Jersey.

      Personally, I'd much rather see police officers and fire fighters getting comfortable pensions than see banksters and other CEOs getting millions of dollars a year and paying a pittance in taxes.  In fact, I'd like to see those comfortable pensions spread out to cover a whole lot more of us.

      Divide and conquer.  That's the billionaires plan.  And doesn't it work out great?  Somehow it seems so much easier to be jealous of and resentful towards those who are close to our status but a little bit above than it is to feel those emotions towards those who are so far above us, we can't even comprehend it.  So the fan those flames with this kind of information, not bothering to mention the risks these people took in order to earn their pensions.  Guess it works.

      "If you trust you are not critical; if you are critical you do not trust" by our own Dauphin

      by gustynpip on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 08:51:15 AM PDT

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    •  SO WHAT??? (0+ / 0-)

      If they earn it, should they not get it?

      Oh, wait, that's right, no college degree! I get it!

      Forget the risks and the wear and tear on the body ...

      Should these pensions be limited to people in the private sector?

      Then how will you attract good people to work in the public sector??

      Shouldn't they be rewarded for a career committed to public safety?

      Women are 51% of the population yet are represented in congress by barely 17%! Until our representation reflects the population, we risk sliding backwards .....

      by 51percent on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 11:20:29 AM PDT

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