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  •  The president has officially given them a pass, (2+ / 0-)
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    so that's not going to happen.

    I bet the folks tried at Nuremberg are really pissed that they couldn't have managed to hold out for Obama and his "Justice" Department.

    •  i'm confused about this issue.. (0+ / 0-)

      Who would the "justice department" charge, and what would they charge them with? It seems to me that the Bush Administration, through legal findings, re-defined torture, and congress gave them the power to do anything they wanted, so what crimes against the US, and who committed them? I would hope that the actual victims of torture be able to sue the us government. I'm not sure what the remedy would be....maybe they'd get a few states?

      •  The Justice Department should have investigated (0+ / 0-)

        credible evidence that U.S. and international law was broken and torture committed.

        Just because some lawyers tortured the law to come up with legal justifications means nothing. As a matter of fact, a number of people tried at Nuremberg were judges who provided legal justification for Nazi atrocities. I believe a few were even hung.

        •  And others were hanged. (0+ / 0-)

          To put the torture behind us is, inevitably, to put it in front of us.

          by UntimelyRippd on Tue Apr 16, 2013 at 06:36:38 PM PDT

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        •  Nuremberg was an international trial (0+ / 0-)

          And the crimes were committed against the German people. It seems to me the international community should, and eventually will hold the US government accountable for what was done to the people of Iraq and  Afghanistan, and their country. it is not just members of the Bush Administration that are responsible. It is our entire government that allowed it to happen.
           I don't see why legal findings would not matter in a US court of law. The laws in this country have always been written to protect some from being prosecuted for crimes they've already committed, making what was illegal legal.

          •  I think the rest of the world is (0+ / 0-)

            too afraid of the U.S. to cross it.

            I recall a nuclear disarmament conference in 2004 or 2005 in the UK. Several scientists spoke against any further reduction in EU nukes because the U.S. was now a threat to Europe.

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