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  •  I think it's apparent that the Whte House (28+ / 0-)

    will push C-CPI instead of changing course, so our Democratic Senators and Reps will be under extreme pressure.

    The President said the other day in reference to gun legislation (paraphrased) that it's not right for congress not to pass laws the majority of people support.

    Well, Mr. President  the majority of people don't want cuts to Social Security either, so please take your own advise.

    Thanks for the good diary.

    "Lets show the rascals what Citizens United really means."

    by smiley7 on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 07:34:36 AM PDT

    •  I have yet to see evidence of that. (1+ / 0-)
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      I think people should push Dems in Congress to oppose chained cpi, but I have yet to see evidence of a big WH push for chained cpi.  It's in the budget with reveenue increases.

      There is no evidence of this "extreme pressure."

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      by TomP on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 08:07:18 AM PDT

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      •  Meeting tonight with Senators (7+ / 0-)

        selected by Sen. Patty Murray and diary yesterday about WH arguing for CPI on the Hill

        "There is no evidence of this "extreme pressure."
        Tom I wrote "I think and will be under extreme pressure."

        "Lets show the rascals what Citizens United really means."

        by smiley7 on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 08:18:02 AM PDT

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        •  That is not evidence. (0+ / 0-)

          A diary on dkos and a meeting that has yet to happen with senators.  Let's see what is discussed at this meeting.

          Come on, when the WH pressures, people know.  Are they going to cut projects in the states of people who refuse to vote for it?  

          If and when they actually place intense pressure on Dems in Congress, it will be obvious.  Now we just have daily kos speculation.

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          by TomP on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 08:57:01 AM PDT

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          •   TomP The Hill published the article my diary (2+ / 0-)
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            was based on yesterday yesterday and quoted real live Dem Caucus leaders

            Why even have it? If Obama just threw chained  cpi = COLA cuts  out there for funzies for the Republicans why have the meeting with the Dem Caucus?
            White House struggles to rally House Dems behind chained CPI
            By Mike Lillis - 04/16/13 12:37 PM ET

            Read more: http://thehill.com/...

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            Obama has offered up  chained  cpi = COLA cuts for years now.

            Now its about his legacy, about him.

            There is the obvious pressure evident in his besmirching the Democratic Party brand by putting it in writing in the budget.

              So the pressure is indeed ongoing. Count on it.

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            by divineorder on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 09:38:42 AM PDT

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            •  When there will be real pressure is (0+ / 0-)

              if an when Republicans agree.  Then the pressure may be overwhelming.  Define pressure.  There is nothing to vote on now, no bill even.

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              by TomP on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 10:10:32 AM PDT

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          •  The WH sent Gene Sperling out (3+ / 0-)
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            to sell c-cpi to congress and Klein's article isn't the only one appearing that has that VSP-marketing smell to it.

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            by tardis10 on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 09:49:58 AM PDT

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            •  Yes, they explained. (0+ / 0-)

              Again, pressure?  

              There would be real presusre if the Rs ever agreed to the revenue.  

              Dems right now have no excuse not to oppose chained cpi.  There's no real pressure on them from the WH.

              Pressure ot mean means actual and real consequences if you don't go my way.  The WH feeding senators a fancy lunch is not pressure.  

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              by TomP on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 10:12:13 AM PDT

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        •  Not to mention that Entitlement 'Reform' has (0+ / 0-)

          been the Agenda since before the first inauguration.

          Here's a piece about his WaPo Editorial Board interview several days before he was inaugurated (2009).  I have provided a link to the piece.

          Obama Pledges Reform of Social Security, Medicare Programs

          [President-elect Barack Obama visited The Washington Post on Thursday for an interview before his inauguration Tuesday.]

          By Michael D. Shear
          Washington Post Staff Writer
          Friday, January 16, 2009

          President-elect Barack Obama pledged yesterday to shape a new Social Security and Medicare "bargain" with the American people, saying that the nation's long-term economic recovery cannot be attained unless the government finally gets control over its most costly entitlement programs. . . .

          And here's the President's own Fiscal Commission's proposal The Moment Of Truth.

          Please read Section V, Social Security, beginning on Page 48.

          As much as I'm concerned about the passage and implementation of the Chained CPI, other proposed cuts (by the Commission) would concern me even more.

          Mollie

          "Only he who can see the invisible, can do the impossible."-- Frank L. Gaines


          hiddennplainsight

          by musiccitymollie on Thu Apr 18, 2013 at 06:57:13 PM PDT

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    •  They will yell "charge"... (1+ / 0-)
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      ...and look back after a few gallops to see most of the cavalry still in formation, waiting for orders that don't involve almost certain suicide.

      I hope they are pleased that the supposed left-of-center neighborhood of "The Village" is still cheering. That's as loud as the "applause" is going to get.

      When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong, you cannot be too conservative. --Martin Luther King Jr.

      by Egalitare on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 10:20:53 AM PDT

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