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  •  "giving" versus "selling" (5+ / 0-)

    I think it needs to be clear that Grandpa can give his 12 gauge to you without involving the government.

    “liberals are the people who think that cruelty is the worst thing that we do” --Richard Rorty Also, I moved from NYC, so my username is inaccurate.

    by jeff in nyc on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 08:16:39 AM PDT

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    •  Why? We have to involve the government to transfer (3+ / 0-)
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      ownership of our old car to a nephew or grandchild.

      "Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens," -Friedrich Schiller "Against Stupidity, the Gods themselves contend in Vain"

      by pengiep on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 08:41:32 AM PDT

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      •  No you don't. (0+ / 0-)

        only vehicles driven on public roads need to be registered, and driving motor vehicles on a public road is not a constitutional right.

        "with rights come responsibilities." Wrong. Responsibilities continue to exist even if you abdicate your rights.

        by happymisanthropy on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 10:11:48 AM PDT

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        •  Oh, yeah, I forgot about . . . (0+ / 0-)

          that huge class of cars that people acquire but don't ever drive.  Because after all, pretty much everyone has tens of thousands of dollars to spend on a vehicle that will never be used for its intended purpose.

          There's really no argument too ridiculous for you folks, is there?

          "Ça c'est une chanson que j'aurais vraiment aimé ne pas avoir écrite." -- Barbara

          by FogCityJohn on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 10:40:37 AM PDT

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          •  what people do isn't the issue (0+ / 0-)

            what government has been given the constitutional authority to do is the issue.

            "with rights come responsibilities." Wrong. Responsibilities continue to exist even if you abdicate your rights.

            by happymisanthropy on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 10:48:14 AM PDT

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            •  No, that's not the issue. Not for anybody. (0+ / 0-)

              If anyone says that background checks or registration are unconstitutional, they are either idiots or intentionally feeding bullshit to idiots.

              That's not even "gun control". It's more like "massacre control".

              by Inland on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 12:37:55 PM PDT

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              •  there's no difference between (0+ / 0-)

                forbidding the transfer of heirlooms between generations, and kicking down doors for them today.  They are both confiscation.

                "with rights come responsibilities." Wrong. Responsibilities continue to exist even if you abdicate your rights.

                by happymisanthropy on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 02:19:54 PM PDT

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                •  Anyone who thinks a background check (0+ / 0-)

                  is confiscation is either an idiot or intentionally feeding bullshit to idiots.   Or registration, for that matter.

                  Well, the pro gun people used to pretend that they really wanted to keep guns out of the hands of the dangerously insane or criminals.  Now the truth is out, and we see that keeping guns out of the hands of the dangerously insane and criminals is the same as kicking down doors and confiscating guns.

                  I'm always glad to see people dropping their pretenses.

                  That's not even "gun control". It's more like "massacre control".

                  by Inland on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 02:44:18 PM PDT

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                  •  Now you've finally dropped your pretenses (0+ / 0-)

                    you want to have every single firearm, even family heirlooms, registered with the government.  That's even more extreme than Canada, ferfucksake, they abandoned the rifle registry last year.

                    See?  I can twist your words just as well as you can twist mine.

                    "with rights come responsibilities." Wrong. Responsibilities continue to exist even if you abdicate your rights.

                    by happymisanthropy on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 03:11:54 PM PDT

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