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  •  I think we're pinning too much hope on the NRA (6+ / 0-)

    being idiots as a path to electoral victory in 2014. Yes, they'll continue to be massive idiots but the rest of corporate America won't be. ExxonMobil, Monsanto, hell -- even tech companies trying to buy CISPA votes (like IBM seems to have done with nearly a dozen Democrats) and H1-B exemptions, are all going to be putting dollars into campaigns. And not just at the federal level, we could see a lot more red state Houses in January 2015. And without the distraction of a presidential race that means a billion or more dollars to spread around.

    You can't assassinate the character of any of modern conservative. You'd have to find where it was buried, dig it up, resurrect it, then kill it. And killing a zombie isn't really assassination, is it?

    by ontheleftcoast on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 02:18:54 PM PDT

    •  Can they really find new voters and/or (5+ / 0-)
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      turn out a higher number of voters? They have been going full tilt on the crazy rhetoric for years. I think they've just about 100% saturated the "turn out the gun vote" crowd, and any more they can do seems to be incremental.

      Whereas in an off year election, in which conventional wisdom says Dem turnout falls off, gun safety would seem to be a good driver to get a substantial number to the polls.

      With Michelle Obama stepping into the issue, Gabby Giffords and who knows, maybe Hillary will join the debate for 2014 prior to her 2016 run, guns seems to be something Dems can leverage into good turnout.

    •  Errrrr, the Millions of UNemployed (1+ / 0-)
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      people don't matter any more??

      "The 1% don't want SOLUTIONS; they've worked very hard the last four decades to get conditions the way they are now".

      by Superpole on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 04:10:45 PM PDT

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      •  Where did I say that? (1+ / 0-)
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        I said the corporations are going to spend to drown out other concerns in the election. The NRA will be a minor blip on the money parade compared to what the rest of corporate America will be spending. People were unemployed in 2010 and voted the GOP in to control of the House. People were unemployed in 2012 and we lost Senate seats. People will be unemployed in 2014 and what do we expect will happen? Magic?

        You can't assassinate the character of any of modern conservative. You'd have to find where it was buried, dig it up, resurrect it, then kill it. And killing a zombie isn't really assassination, is it?

        by ontheleftcoast on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 04:15:12 PM PDT

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        •  I hear you (0+ / 0-)

          my point was intended to be more general, I'm sorry if I offended you.

          the Unemployment problem is more or less gone from the radar here.

          regarding how the Unemployment problem impacts elections-- I'm not sure most people here care.

          "The 1% don't want SOLUTIONS; they've worked very hard the last four decades to get conditions the way they are now".

          by Superpole on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 05:04:32 PM PDT

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