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  •  The thing about this act, whoever did it, (21+ / 0-)

    is that it feeds the police state, the MIC, the war on terror, the divisions in society.  It creates more fear as terrorist acts do.  Who benefits from that?  
    We know that answer, it's that ruling class, the .01 percent.  I'm not sure society is anymore broken down than its ever been.  The same was said back in the 60's and the 30's and in 1907, not to mention the Civil War.  
    The mass media lies and distorts and spreads misinformation, along with our own government  That's a fact.  The evidence is overwhelming regardless the naysayers.  
    We overreacted after 9/11 and as a society we'll overreact again to our own detriment.  Many of the founders of this country knew about trading liberty for false security.  The lessons have not been learned.

    "I'm an antiwar propagandist as accused by democrats. Not even republicans have called me that."

    by BigAlinWashSt on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 03:56:35 PM PDT

    •  In the 60's We Were Passing Civil Rights, Voting (14+ / 0-)

      rights, war on poverty, Medicare and Medicaid. Shortly after we got the clean air and clean water acts.

      Today an average worker earns only $54 adjusted dollars more than they earned in the 60's. Of course the average family now requires 2 such workers where in the 60's they could make a living and educate their children with only one. Today we pass policies that almost invariably harm the people for the benefit of global ownership, as this afternoon when a safety regulation with 90% support was blocked.

      We were constantly within half an hour of annihilating civilization with nuclear weapons, while today we are annihilating the planet's ability to support civilization permanently.

      There have always been severe problems in this country of different kinds, but overall we're in far worse shape in governance than we've been since the 1920's.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 04:08:05 PM PDT

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      •  You mean our government is more fucked up (8+ / 0-)

        than ever, sure it is.  But I was talking about this terror act in Boston and the idea that society is breaking down.  Good things happened in the 60's but things weren't all hunky dory.  There were plenty of divisions in society and acts of violence.  Four dead in Ohio, the church bombings, Black Panthers, hippie beating, long hairs vs short hairs..  Are we worse now as a society than ever and on the verge of breaking down.  Evidence shows overall violence going down.  But yes, our own government is proving to be the primary culprit in a societal breakdown thru its austerity and war actions.  
        Ya, governance is officially and irrevocably FUBAR.

        "I'm an antiwar propagandist as accused by democrats. Not even republicans have called me that."

        by BigAlinWashSt on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 04:16:13 PM PDT

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    •  Indeed, the .01% (11+ / 0-)

      The wrong kinds of people always seem to benefit from all crisis these days. We never are able to use them to stop these things from happening as much.

      There have been arguably worse times or where these acts were more frequent(and the problems I mention), but....I think we are heading back to those times which is the problem.

      We always talk of learning lessons and moving forward, but we never seem to learn anything and are moving backward. That's what I mean. 1929 income inequality, lack of labor rights, putting Eugene Debs in jail for speaking out against WWI(loosely related to Bradley Manning as far as the overreaction).

      Our overreactions just feed these problems and that is something new. The level of violence may take awhile to exceed what it has in the past but I don't like where we are going.

      Thank you, BigAlinWashSt.

      I don't negotiate grand bargains with deficit terrorists!

      by priceman on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 04:12:57 PM PDT

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    •  agreed (0+ / 0-)

      the gap between rich and poor has been much bigger in every place at every time in history except the past century or so. And as bad as the poor have it America, it's much worse in many places in the world.

      Doesn't make what's going on now any better, but it provides some context and perhaps an explanation why things may have to get a hell of a lot worse before the real breakdown occurs.  Or maybe we'll prevent it from getting much worse.

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      by eparrot on Thu Apr 18, 2013 at 11:00:41 AM PDT

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