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  •  This post has so many "logic holes" in it... (2+ / 0-)
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    DeadHead, gooderservice

    ...you could drive a truck through them. That being said, I'm sure it'll be on the top of the Rec List soon.

    Just a couple of examples (there are many others)...

    IRRATIONAL RATIONALE #1:

    Sometimes five or ten percent of what you want is all you can get done.  It might not be much, but it's certainly better than nothing.  President Obama and our fellow Democrats cannot, nor should they, be blamed for recognizing, and acceding to, political realities...
    Irrational Rationale #1: Putting out 5 or 10 percent of a house fire is better than not putting out the house fire, at all. Ummm....nope.

    Whatever party's running the "fire department" gets fired, across the board.

    IRRATIONAL RATIONALE #2:

    ...It is not the fault of Democrats that the Republican-controlled House will not pass anything close to resembling liberal or progressive legislation.  Democrats simply don't have the votes to make such legislation a reality....
    Irrational Rationale #2: The buck doesn't stop here. After a long enough period of time, voters don't give a flying f*ck about excuses. We live in a world of PERCEPTION POLITICS.

    Voters want their elected officials to be effective advocates on their behalf (not on behalf of the one percent). We had a Democratic Congress for the first two years of the President's first term. What did that get us? If you're going to pass a stimulus that's not going to provide enough "oomph" to get the economy on a proper path, whaddaya' get? A p.r. show that trumpets a "Recovery Summer" in 2010? And, a voting public wondering: "What's that bullshit all about? He's not talking about me!"  (Also see "Irrational Rational #1," above. i.e.: NOT ENOUGH!) Meanwhile, all the "real money's" going to Wall Street.

    Again, repeating the same actions and expecting a different result? That's the very definition of insanity. How'd that strategy in 2010 workout for us at the polls? The diarist is proposing the same, failed gameplan.

    This post is about a "show" that's been in reruns for far too long. It's time for a fresh script and a change of direction. A LOT LESS p.r., excuses and bloviating, and a LOT MORE results.

    And, yes, the proper word--because there's no word more appropriate--for it is thus: CHEERLEADING ain't gonna' cut it anymore. It's time for a new gameplan, and that's going to start with Main Street writing the outline for it; because Wall Street's been calling the shots here for far too long.

    The voters have seen this show before, and they WILL change the proverbial channel unless we provide the audience with some new programming. Lead, follow, or get out of the way (because if we don't, the voters will do that for us at the end of the day).

    Whatever is the definition of POSITIVE INPUT into this community is NOT going to be found in the tired old memes and excuses put forth in this post. They do NOT work. We've been here. We've done this. What do we have to show for it? As someone who ran for office in 2012 in this community stated in the headline of their post the other day: "I can't sell this shit to Democrats!" (Or, something to that effect.)

    "I always thought if you worked hard enough and tried hard enough, things would work out. I was wrong." --Katharine Graham

    by bobswern on Wed Apr 17, 2013 at 09:47:02 PM PDT

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    •  umm, bob? (3+ / 0-)
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      triciawyse, Mets102, Wordsinthewind

      I know you didn't mean to sound like a clueless asshole, but there seems to be something wrong with your keyboard. Apparently, it's stuck from time to time in all caps mode.

      You might want to get that looked into.

      There is no question that there is an unseen world. The problem is, how far is it from Midtown and how late is it open? -- Woody Allen

      by Mnemosyne on Thu Apr 18, 2013 at 08:56:48 AM PDT

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    •  Really? (3+ / 0-)
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      triciawyse, bubbanomics, Mets102

      Give me a break.

      IRRATIONAL RATIONALE #1:

         Sometimes five or ten percent of what you want is all you can get done.  It might not be much, but it's certainly better than nothing.  President Obama and our fellow Democrats cannot, nor should they, be blamed for recognizing, and acceding to, political realities...
      Irrational Rationale #1: Putting out 5 or 10 percent of a house fire is better than not putting out the house fire, at all. Ummm....nope.

      Whatever party's running the "fire department" gets fired, across the board.

      Okay, so fire everyone if the fire truck gets there after the fire has already started, because they didn't save 100% of the house? Nice going. No firefighters left.

      If they get there and there's only about 15 to 20% of the house LEFT to save, and my mother happens to be in that portion, fuck yeah saving a portion is better than none!

      Oh yeah, and by the way, get my mom OUT and worry about the stupid house later!! I don't care if the whole goddamn thing burns down if it means rescuing her!

      Also: I clean the lakes in my neighborhood when my body allows. It takes time and a lot of effort. I can't get every piece of trash, because some might be too large and heavy, or I might not see them, or they're too far out for me to reach and I'm not about to go swimming in a lake with cottonmouths and gators, thank you (aside from the physical limitations).

      But by your weird logic, if I can't get 100% of it, I shouldn't bother. Or I should be given shit for not getting every bit.

      SOME. THINGS. ARE. NOT. POSSIBLE. That goes for this President, as well. He's not a dictator, and even dictators can't walk on water.

      So the only thing I see here that is irrational is your belief that everything we want, we should get. Not gonna happen.

      "We have only the moral ground we actually inhabit, not the moral ground we claim." - It Really Is That Important

      by Diogenes2008 on Thu Apr 18, 2013 at 11:31:00 AM PDT

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