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  •  Maybe you had not noticed (0+ / 0-)

    But the recent law passed in Connecticut says that guns confiscated by the police are supposed to be sold back to the public (if they are legal for the general public to own).

    •  we're fine with that (1+ / 0-)
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      bigger and more important issues to be concerned about.

      "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

      by Greg Dworkin on Thu Apr 18, 2013 at 07:57:11 AM PDT

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      •  Yeah, well (0+ / 0-)

        The Connecticut law also mandates a 2 year minimum jail sentence for carrying a plastic pistol grip in your pocket, so I admit to some skepticism as to how much thought went into it.

        •  Citation? That's an awfully specific (0+ / 0-)

          law.

          I see what you did there.

          by GoGoGoEverton on Thu Apr 18, 2013 at 09:14:02 AM PDT

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        •  heh (0+ / 0-)

          I admit some skepticism as to your ability to objectively look at the law ;-)

          but it's a free country and anyone can play.

          "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

          by Greg Dworkin on Thu Apr 18, 2013 at 09:26:56 AM PDT

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          •  Here's the link (0+ / 0-)

            The law as I have been able to find it is here.

            The relevant pieces of text:

            Sec. 25. Section 53-202a of the general statutes is repealed and the following is substituted in lieu thereof (Effective from passage):

            [(a)] As used in this section and sections 53-202b to 53-202k, inclusive: [, "assault weapon" means:]

            (1) [Any] "Assault weapon" means:

            [(2)] (ii) A part or combination of parts designed or intended to convert a firearm into an assault weapon, as defined in subparagraph (A)(i) of this subdivision, [(1) of this subsection,] or any combination of parts from which an assault weapon, as defined in subparagraph (A)(i) of this subdivision, [(1) of this subsection,] may be rapidly assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person;

            Subparagraph A:
            [(A)] (i) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least one of the following:

            [(i)] (I) A folding or telescoping stock;

            [(ii) A] (II) Any grip of the weapon, including a pistol grip, [that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon] a thumbhole stock, or any other stock, the use of which would allow an individual to grip the weapon, resulting in any finger on the trigger hand in addition to the trigger finger being directly below any portion of the action of the weapon when firing;

            Note that the weapon is an assault weapon, and the law goes out of its way to say that a part or parts that make an otherwise legal weapon into an assault weapon is also an "assault weapon". One part that turns a normal weapon into an assault weapon is a forward pistol grip.

            Normal weapon = legal
            Normal weapon + pistol grip = assault weapon

            Therefore, pistol grip = "A part or combination of parts designed or intended to convert a firearm into an assault weapon"

            Since it is by legal definition now an "assault weapon", possession of a pistol grip is legally the same as possession of the weapon it attaches to. And if that "assault weapon" was not grandfathered, or was sold to a felon or imported from out of state, woe be to you.

            And the penalty phase:

            Sec. 26. Section 53-202b of the general statutes is repealed and the following is substituted in lieu thereof (Effective from passage):

            (a) (1) Any person who, within this state, distributes, transports or imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives any assault weapon, except as provided by sections [29-37j and] 53-202a to 53-202k, inclusive, as amended by this act, [and subsection (h) of section 53a-46a,] shall be guilty of a class C felony and shall be sentenced to a term of imprisonment of which two years may not be suspended or reduced by the court.

            (2) Any person who transfers, sells or gives any assault weapon to a person under eighteen years of age in violation of subdivision (1) of this subsection shall be sentenced to a term of imprisonment of six years, which shall not be suspended or reduced by the court and shall be in addition and consecutive to the term of imprisonment imposed under subdivision (1) of this subsection.

            I didn't write it, but that is the way it reads.
            •  Would you have any reason for having the (0+ / 0-)

              aforementioned grip apart from attaching it to a weapon? Why would you be in possession of it unless you intended to use it?

              Woe be to you for breaking the law. Sorry, I fail to see the outrage.

              •  Plenty of reasons (0+ / 0-)

                The paintball and Airsoft markets use this sort of parts for their recreational/fake weapons. I used to have a paintball marker that was designed to accept aftermarket grips and stocks from the AR-15 series. So, selling the wrong paintball gun or plastic pellet gun to a minor sets you back six years in PMITA prison. A movie company coming to town with the wrong completely fake weapons is in danger of mass incarceration.

                The point is not that I expect the law to be enforced in that way or people to be tossed in jail for owning a pistol grip, it is that the law was so poorly thought out and badly edited that things like this made it to the level of final passage, and anyone with English as a first, second or maybe third language should have been able to do a better job.

                That's not the sign of a piece of legislation that was given even a cursory examination for flaws. And it is not like they threw this together overmight. It took a bipartisan effort over a period of months to make it that awful.

    •  Is "confiscated" different than (0+ / 0-)

      voluntarily exchanged for cash?

      The most generous thing I can say about such laws is that they appear to be a misguided attempt at reducing a state's budget deficit.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Thu Apr 18, 2013 at 08:34:49 AM PDT

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