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  •  You don't think it has anything to do with the (3+ / 0-)

    auto industry?

    Tracy B Ann - technically that is my signature.

    by ZenTrainer on Fri Apr 19, 2013 at 09:29:41 PM PDT

    •  Yes and No... (2+ / 0-)
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      Woody, koNko

      Yes when the Auto Industry tanks Detroit is more screwed then usual.

      But so is Cleveland, Toledo, Akron, Pittsburgh, Indy, etc. and they all kick our ass in pretty much every stat. OTOH they're real cities with mass transit systems, and working class neighborhoods (especially white working class neighborhoods) within the city limits.

      •  You're too kind to the rivals (2+ / 0-)
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        peregrine kate, DetroitSkeptic

        Cleveland and Pittsburgh have one or two lines of rail transit, plus a few of the better examples of BRT (also known as Bus Repackaged Transit) offering glorified express buses on a couple of their main streets. But for all that I wouldn't accuse them of having a really good public transit system. The smaller cities you mention even less so. Live there and you drive, or you walk, or you stay home and rot.

        This quibble does not detract from your larger point that the others do look better when the stats are compared.

        Worth noting is that Indianapolis is the state capital. Very few capital cities among the 50 are not doing nicely with the growth industry of government, like um, Trenton, Harrisburg, um, um ...

        Note also that Indianapolis combined the city and county governments, in effect annexing the suburban (and white working class) neighborhoods into the city. Which point supports your argument about the weakness of the fragmented government in, over, and around Detroit.

        •  You don't HAVE to drive in Cleveland (0+ / 0-)

          I've been taking the 40 from Cleveland Heights down to Maple every day for years. It's not ideal -- the bus runs every 40 minutes on good days -- but it works.

          Despite the fact Detroit technically has two bus systems I would not want to try a similar commute in the D.

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