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  •  I agree that every country's record is mixed, (3+ / 0-)
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    to say the least, Germany and China definitely not excepted.
    It's still not at all clear to me that we should be any more confident that American or Canadian pipeline operators are less likely to cook the books and to outright lie as long as they can get away with it.
    I gather that you are in the camp of -- since there is oil to be extracted somehow, it will be extracted. (Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.) My understanding instead is that we have, perhaps, a very small window in which to forestall the huge expansion of this particular extraction technology before the whole AGW phenomenon reaches an irreversible tipping point (if it hasn't already). To that end, objecting to KXL construction seems to me like a reasonable rallying point for several reasons already listed many times over.
    Most of all: in whose benefit is it, really, that we continue to invest in this technology, putting more and more sunk costs into developing an energy resource that will doom us? So far, the oil companies in whatever version seem to have been able to externalize their true costs. I for one have had enough of subsidizing them and getting so little back besides convenience.
    You have so much technical and professional experience to offer, I regret that we are still on opposite sides of this issue.

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    by peregrine kate on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 08:33:42 PM PDT

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    •  Let's look at what the President is looking at. (1+ / 0-)
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      Is there anything about KXL that makes it worse than other pipelines, in fact, worse than other sources of heavy sour oil already coming into Southern ports?

      The answer there is no.

      All Kerry can look at is one thing:

      Is Canada an enemy?

      Again, no.

      People are drawing a line in the sand on this one pipeline. They're making stuff up. They're saying that the contents of the pipeline are more corrosive than anything, ever. Actually, compared to all the liquids moved by pipeline in this country (including and especially sea water) the contents of KXL are electrochemically bland.

      All this mis-information. All this bad data. All of it will be used to criticize President Obama once the KXL is approved.

      And that is what I think is bullshit.

      It rubs the loofah on its skin or else it gets the falafel again.

      by Fishgrease on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 08:46:53 PM PDT

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    •  Oh and... (1+ / 0-)
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      You have so much technical and professional experience to offer, I regret that we are still on opposite sides of this issue.
      Me too.

      It rubs the loofah on its skin or else it gets the falafel again.

      by Fishgrease on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 08:47:46 PM PDT

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